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by POESY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:58 pm
Anyone tried it?
http://www.idealworld.tv/Twinpack_Showr ... 0lightning
Ive ordered some having watched a few testimonials, one from Aston Martin no less.
Think ill try it on the nissan first
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by Clark » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:06 pm
No Thanks!
I'll stick to good old fashioned water and 2 buckets. Aston Martin put out some of the most shockingly prepped cars available too
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by stijoy » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:30 pm
use it on mine, wish i had found this years ago, can do the whole car in 10mins, instead of the 1-2 hours the old water way, its so easy, 1 bottle and 2 microftbre cloths compared to the mountain of different products i used to use before,
i tried it on the van first so
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by 500tie » Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:58 pm
Clark wrote:No Thanks! I'll stick to good old fashioned water and 2 buckets. Aston Martin put out some of the most shockingly prepped cars available too
Completly agree ill stick to washing it properly even in this bad weather atleast i know if i do it properly my paint work is in a good condition
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by Azyman » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:14 pm
How to Use:
1. Shake Well to activate.
2. Spray liberally onto vehicle.
3. Wipe over with a clean, dry microfibre cloth.
4. Buff to a shine with another clean microfibre cloth
surely you must jetwash the car first?
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by POESY » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:26 pm
Yeah, think i would still jet wash the car from time to time to rinse the wheel arches, underneath, etc.
Living now in the city centre, car parked an underground car park, having hoses and buckets etc is not really an option, so this may do the trick.
Ive seen a neighbour down there using it on his AMV8 and it looks superb and has no markes whatsoever. Is silver though and thats a colour that seems to hide swirles, etc best.
Fingers crossed it works on the xtrail.
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by Azyman » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:31 pm
let me know how you get on
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by Clark » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:44 pm
They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint.
I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work.
"If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
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by stijoy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:01 pm
Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars,
all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
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by WR1 Bro » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:13 pm
stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars, all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
I dunno, you guys with expensive cars just don't understand the value of money.
I guess it comes down to what is important to you. I for one like my labour intensive car cleaning scheme.... albeit it "basic" compared to some nerds Clark.
However, if you want a clean car without the worry of damaged paint then fill your boots.
One would have thought that price needs to be considered. Car shampoo works our far cheaper?
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by John Mc » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:21 pm
Just let the rain wash it... nothing free-er than that
[Just incase this gets lost in translation, I am not slandering you, I know people can be sensitive to these harsh words.]
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by stijoy » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:13 pm
WR1 Bro wrote:stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars, all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
I dunno, you guys with expensive cars just don't understand the value of money. I guess it comes down to what is important to you. I for one like my labour intensive car cleaning scheme.... albeit it "basic" compared to some nerds Clark. However, if you want a clean car without the worry of damaged paint then fill your boots. One would have thought that price needs to be considered. Car shampoo works our far cheaper?
true, i hate cleaning cars, always have, anything thats easy for me, i cant see any damage on mine, so thats what matters to me,
give it a few years, then might treat it to a clark professional job
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by WR1 Bro » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:46 pm
stijoy wrote:WR1 Bro wrote:stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars, all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
I dunno, you guys with expensive cars just don't understand the value of money. I guess it comes down to what is important to you. I for one like my labour intensive car cleaning scheme.... albeit it "basic" compared to some nerds Clark. However, if you want a clean car without the worry of damaged paint then fill your boots. One would have thought that price needs to be considered. Car shampoo works our far cheaper?
true, i hate cleaning cars, always have, anything thats easy for me, i cant see any damage on mine, so thats what matters to me, give it a few years, then might treat it to a clark professional job
That's a very fair point. The more you clean your car, the more you notice the "issues".
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by Clark » Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:43 pm
stijoy wrote:WR1 Bro wrote:stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars, all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
I dunno, you guys with expensive cars just don't understand the value of money. I guess it comes down to what is important to you. I for one like my labour intensive car cleaning scheme.... albeit it "basic" compared to some nerds Clark. However, if you want a clean car without the worry of damaged paint then fill your boots. One would have thought that price needs to be considered. Car shampoo works our far cheaper?
true, i hate cleaning cars, always have, anything thats easy for me, i cant see any damage on mine, so thats what matters to me, give it a few years, then might treat it to a clark professional job
Then I'll have to inform you that the paint cant be corrected to a decent standard as the defects in your paint are too deep to fully remove
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by stijoy » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:54 am
Clark wrote:stijoy wrote:WR1 Bro wrote:stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:They're loaded with fillers - thats why you dont see the marks. Wash it with water and shampoo or give it a wipe down with IPA and you'll see what it really does to your paint. I'd like to think i know what I'm talking about on this one and seriously, if you cant get your car washed the normal way - just wait a bit longer untill you can. These kind of products really do inflict some nasty defects into your paint, I see it all the time at work. "If it's too good to be true then it usually is" as they say
it never has any paint colour on the cloths when done, and never see any marks on the car, a lot of people are paranoid about swirlmarks and general well being of there cars, all i want is something that is easy, let the next person who has the car worry about what the paint looks like.
I dunno, you guys with expensive cars just don't understand the value of money. I guess it comes down to what is important to you. I for one like my labour intensive car cleaning scheme.... albeit it "basic" compared to some nerds Clark. However, if you want a clean car without the worry of damaged paint then fill your boots. One would have thought that price needs to be considered. Car shampoo works our far cheaper?
true, i hate cleaning cars, always have, anything thats easy for me, i cant see any damage on mine, so thats what matters to me, give it a few years, then might treat it to a clark professional job
Then I'll have to inform you that the paint cant be corrected to a decent standard as the defects in your paint are too deep to fully remove
even with the defects you say, looking at some of the pics you have posted, the car will look stunning after you have finished with it.
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by Clark » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Not as stunning as it could look if you stop using those stupid bloddy waterless wash products
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by stijoy » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:10 pm
Clark wrote:Not as stunning as it could look if you stop using those stupid bloddy waterless wash products
i hear what your saying, but it does leave the car looking very polished, i just can not understand why so many massive names in the car industry use it?
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by Foley » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:10 pm
stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:Not as stunning as it could look if you stop using those stupid bloddy waterless wash products
i hear what your saying, but it does leave the car looking very polished, i just can not understand why so many massive names in the car industry use it?
Probs cause it's easy money for them,
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by Clark » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:07 pm
stijoy wrote:Clark wrote:Not as stunning as it could look if you stop using those stupid bloddy waterless wash products
i hear what your saying, but it does leave the car looking very polished, i just can not understand why so many massive names in the car industry use it?
They may be massive names but it doesnt necessarily mean they know whats best in car care - money will have a big part to play in it too... They just aim at the masses who still think a sponge and chamois is the best way to wash the car, us detailing minded people/geeks/saddo's/whatever you want to call us are still just a small minority but detailing is getting across to more and more people all the time.
I really could go on for hours why I'm so against these products (log onto Detailing World and 60,000+ People will tell you the same ) but I dont want to appear to be preaching so I'll leave it.
For what it's worth, there are some alternative ways of washing a car without water with products such as optimum no rinse etc which are better than these quick spray on and off products but you still have to take extreme care and marring/scratching is still easily done.
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by WR1 Bro » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:22 pm
Preach away Clark... People who don't listen to your advice are simply ignorant to the facts... Or just lazy... Or they have higher priorities in their lives. I personally like to use a "compromise" of your techniques that fit in with my lifestyle. Either way, we all must bow to your knowledge and your beautiful hands.
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by POESY » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:35 am
Well, the nissan came up spot on. Very happy, no scratches or swirls and it took about 1/2hr tops. Did stop at the jetwash and give it a quick blast over on the way home, dont know if that helped.
But i'd say good stuff. Does what it says on the tin!!
Will deffo be giving the meg a go at the weekend.
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by POESY » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:33 am
Well, just some feedbackfolks.
Done all 3 cars now and theyre gleaming away. Key seems to be give it a good blast with the jetwash first. Take it for a quick drive round the block to get it dryish, then away you go.
A couple of good microfibre clothes are needed. 1 to remove the product and 1 to buff up afterwards. Leaves the car spotlessly clean, paintwork completely smooth, polished, works on all surfaces and absolutely no swirl marks whatsoever.
Took me about 30 mins to do the xtrail, the cars are a bit quicker.
About 10 washes to a £10 bottle, but saving a fortune as no other products; wheel, glass, trim cleaner or polish or wax are now required.
Im converted.
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by stijoy » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:53 pm
that makes 2 of us then neil
i can not believe the finish, and like you say does away with all other products
did you get there cloths?
i also give mine a blast before using, but i had to do that anyway when doing it the old way
about 10 mins from start to finish on my car, makes life so much easier, bit i fear we wont convert any of these all day car cleaners neil
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by dynamix » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:06 pm
Takes me an hour to wash and dry my car using proper stuff.
No thank you for this - got to be nasty.
Fine if the car is just marginally unclean - will work like a quick detailler spray but they do cause damage if there is any kind of material on the surface of the paint.
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by Clark » Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:33 am
Must...bite...tongue...
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by dynamix » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:12 pm
lol about the hour ?
Admittedly it isn't 'clark clean' but it'll do
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by stijoy » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:31 pm
Clark wrote:Must...bite...tongue...
we all have seen your work on here
i just wish i could afford to have my car detailed by experts like yourself every few months
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by Clark » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:02 pm
dynamix wrote:lol about the hour ? Admittedly it isn't 'clark clean' but it'll do
no no mate, just the whole waterless wash thing - makes me cringe!
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by stijoy » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:12 am
Clark wrote:dynamix wrote:lol about the hour ? Admittedly it isn't 'clark clean' but it'll do
no no mate, just the whole waterless wash thing - makes me cringe!
i should think most of the people you deal with, dont even want to wash there cars, they get you to do it for them
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by POESY » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:35 pm
Guys, its a piece of pi$$ and it doesnt scratch the paint.
Sure if my life was shiney cars then maybe i'd want to take longer, but honestly there are better things to do.
Ill admit yesterday the car was particularly dirty, so at the jetwash i had to put in 2 quid and use the lance shampoo as well as the rinse, but after that its squirt it on wipe it off, then buff. Job done.
The ads dont talk about rinsing the car first, but i'd recommend it if you can. Otherwise your just doing the same as before except using a microfibre cloth, rather than a spong and leathering and polishing at the same time, rather than making it a 2 stage operation.
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