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The M5 against the Scoob wasn't in launch control as bigman says holding at 4500rpm and I can tell you it is a fecking awesome launch.
As for those things called 'corners' I thought the M5 handled them far better than I thought it would, in its top suspension setting it stiffens up a hell of a lot, so much so, I think the ride is even as harsh as the scoobs was if not more so. The thing it lacks the most is a good sound track, they really failed to let the 5.0litre V10 sing when the M button is pressed. Having riden in Dans new CSL with the sport button pressed it shows this up even more, the induction raw from that car is unbelievable Previous Owner of #216
I agree, they could have allowed a little more of the V10 to be heard presa Delighted to hear your enjoying the car though, as I'm having a tough job telling the lads here just how good it really is.
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I don't think you are having a tough job telling us how good it is, we know how good it is....BUT it's only "brilliant" in a straight line with all it's power but if you have the same power in a scoob or evo, it'll be just as good but will also go round the twistys better too. The big plus for the M5 is that you can do all this in comfort watching Sky TV in your armchair.
Met up with Dan on the day he got the CSL, absolutely love the sound of the engine, he launched it a couple of times from the lights, agreed that I'd have this over the M5's V10 anyday for sound.
PMSL, John you'd be stunned at how the M5 actually deals with the twisties.
The difference between a well driven M5 and a 400bhp evo through the bends is negligible. The CSL's are good, I did own one I drove the absolutle arse out of it, again though you the M5 IS better Previously: Everything With 4 Wheels over 300bhp
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The bloke in the Evo clearly couldn't drive it properly
I think we all remember this one. Of course, a Murcielago is not as good as an M5 and the BTCC driver behind the wheel is not as good as Clarkson, but still... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y6lIaGZA4w
Oh yes, I recall that one It beat the M5 around that track by 1.8 seconds!
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Now the M5 aint on this list but it cant be faster than the M3 CSL ?
I think this kinda puts a lid on this debate. Car used Time (mins) Gumpert Apollo 1.17.1 Ascari A10 1.17.3 Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear spoiler) 1.17.6 Pagani Zonda F Roadster 1.17.8 Caterham R500 1.17.9 Bugatti Veyron 1.18.3 Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4 Maserati MC12 1.18.9 Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0 Ariel Atom 1.19.5 Lamborghini LP560 1.19.5 Ferrari Scuderia 1.19.7 Nissan GT-R 1.19.7 Lamborghini LP640 1.19.8 Porsche Carerra GT 1.19.8 Koenigsegg CCX 1.20.4 Ascari KZ1 1.20.7 Mercedes McLaren SLR 1.20.9 Ferrari 599GTB 1.21.2 Ford GT 1.21.9 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3 Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3 Corvette Z06 1.22.4 Noble M15 1.22.5 Murcielago 1.23.7 Zonda 1.23.8 Koenigsegg 1.23.9 Aston Martin DBS 1.23.93 Veritas RS III 1.24.2 Prodrive P2 1.24.3 Audi R8 1.24.4 TVR Sagaris 1.24.6 Mitsubishi Evo FQ400 1.24.8 TVR Tuscan 1.24.8 Noble M400 1.25.0 Lotus Exige S 1.25.1 BMW M3 Saloon 1.25.3 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1.25.7 Lamborghini Gallardo 1.25.8 BMW Z4 M 1.26.0 Porsche Cayman 1.26.2 Porsche 911 Carrera 2S 1.26.2 Brabus Biturbo Roadster 1.26.2 Lotus Exige 1.26.4 Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8 Lexus IS-F 1.26.8 Mercedes CLS 55 AMG 1.26.9 Aston Martin Vanquish S 1.27.1 Aston Martin DB9 1.27.1 Telsa Roadster 1.27.2 Porsche 911 GT3 1.27.2 TVR 350C 1.27.5 BMW M3 CSL 1.28.0 Roush Mustang 1.28.0 Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2 Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2 Mitsubishi Evo X 1.28.22 Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5 MG SV 1.28.6 Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9 Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9 BMW Alpina Z8 1.29.0 Mercedes CL65 1.29.0 VW Golf W12 1.29.6 Alfa 3.7 GTA Autodelta 1.30.0 Ford Shelby GT500 1.30.0 Subaru Impreza STI 1.30.1 Vauxhall Monaro VXR 1.30.1 Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4 Golf R32 1.30.4 Audi S4 1.30.9 Porsche 911 Turbo 1.31.0 Vauxhall VX220 turbo 1.31.3 Vauxhall VXR8 1.31.3 New Audi TT 1.31.4 Honda NSX Type R 1.31.6 BMW M3 1.31.8 Nissan 350Z 1.31.8 Mazda RX-8 1.31.8 BMW 535d 1.31.8 BMW 130 1.31.9 Ford Focus RS 1.32.2 Mazda 6 MPS 1.32.2 Lotus Esprit V8 1.32.5 Audi TT V6 1.32.7 MG ZT 1.33.0 Noble M12 GTO 1.33.1 Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1.33.2 Volkswagen Golf R32 1.33.2 Cadillac CTS 1.33.3 Honda Civic Type-R 1.33.5 Holden Monaro 1.33.9 Ford Mondeo ST220 1.34.5 Jaguar XKR 1.34.7 Ford Focus ST 1.34.9 Volvo S60R 1.35.0 Ferrari 575M 1.35.2 Vauxhall Vectra VXR 1.35.3 Our Car 1.35.4 Fiat 500 Abarth 1.35.5 Alfa 147 GTA 1.35.6 Lotus Elise 1.35.6 Aston Martin Vanquish 1.36.2 Renault Clio V6 1.36.2 Honda Civic Type R 1.36.5 Alfa Romeo Brera 1.36.9 Saab 95 Aero 1.37.9 Maserati 3200 GT 1.38.0 Alfa Romeo 8C 1.38.2 Bowler Wildcat 1.39.4 Bentley Arnarge 1.40.8 Overfinch Range Rover 1.44.0 Aston Martin DB5 1.46.0
Yep M5 did it in 1.26.2 No sure why its not on the list.
And I think I would know whats quicker, I have owned both and carried out extensive trials of my own Previously: Everything With 4 Wheels over 300bhp
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Wouldnt be hard, he didnt even use launch control!!
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Heres the Vid, and as you will see, No launch control which could have shaved a fairly substantial .3 or .4 of a second off the lap time.
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I was bigger than the stig when I was 5 mate
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No it wouldnt, however all I can say to that is that 400/450bhp evo;s cannot make any head way against the M5 on my local testracks. An evo running 400/450bhp is similar in performance, all it takes is one straight away though and they are finished. Previously: Everything With 4 Wheels over 300bhp
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Forget the EVO rice rocket, look what else it did it quicker than on that list, for a 5 door 1800kg+ car it is pretty special if you ask me.
Just a few..... 911 Carrera 2S Lotus Exige! Aston Martin Vanquish S Aston DB9 Porsche 911 GT3 BMW M3 CSL and over 3 seconds quicker than the WR1, although the stig did drive like a muppet in it as there's no way its slower than a standard STi! I think it's time to leave this FQ400-M5 debat alone once and for all its getting very boring! Previous Owner of #216
I'm willing to leave it there presa!
I think thats quite some kill list Previously: Everything With 4 Wheels over 300bhp
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