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I probably need to consider buying a big brake kit once if fitted a bigger turbo. I'm thinking 355mm 6-pot AP's, which I know a few of you have already bought.

Where did you buy from and what are your thought's on the AP's?

Is there anyone else thinking of upgrading their brakes soon...may be we could do a group buy

Anders

I've not regretted the money I spent on the APs. Try contacting AP direct for a price. When I purchased mine there was no movement in price.

Bro, do mind if I ask what you paid for them?

I paid £2450 back in April/May time 2006

Not sure what they are selling for now.

Whatever they cost, you soon realise how good they are when you get back into a NORMAL car!

I saw a group buy on Scoobynet where 355mm they were going for £1,250 + VAT. That was for the road version, rather than race version of the calipers. Not sure what the difference is, but I'm sure they would be a lot better than the Brembo's.

Anders_WR1 wrote:I saw a group buy on Scoobynet where 355mm they were going for £1,250 + VAT. That was for the road version, rather than race version of the calipers. Not sure what the difference is, but I'm sure they would be a lot better than the Brembo's.

£2450 included the front and rears.

Someone else can add more info here regards the road/race versions. I believe the race versions have slightly less protection and need to be stripped down regularly for cleaning. We have the road kits and they are fantastic.

Bro's price is for front and rears Anders.

Road kit is what you want, they are more than good enough. The race kits dont have dust seals on the pistons (require a bit of looking after) and have fully floating discs (nice but really rattly!)

I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

I believe they were pretty much bolt on. Some of the protective plate behind the discs had to be trimmed down a little. I believe some people just remove it completely.

Try Tileys, YHPM

danr55 wrote:Try Tileys, YHPM

And mention the WR1oc!!

Sounds as, I'll give them a ring. I won't be buying for a couple of months, but always good to know how much cash will be needed.

Edited to say do they do Evo's as well? My mate want's AP's on his Evo VI.

Anders_WR1 wrote:Sounds as, I'll give them a ring. I won't be buying for a couple of months, but always good to know how much cash will be needed.

Edited to say do they do Evo's as well? My mate want's AP's on his Evo VI.

Yes, you can get slightly bigger disks for the EVO 362's I believe.

Anders_WR1 wrote:I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

You get the lines as well, which requires a slight mod to the little bracket on the strut that keeps it in place.

You need to ensure the caliper is in line and central with the disc (there is spacers provided) and have a good bleeding technique (can be a pain with empty calipers) but it's reasonably straight forward.

They are brakes though, so if you are not 100% certain get someone who is to fit them.

marky mark wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

You get the lines as well, which requires a slight mod to the little bracket on the strut that keeps it in place.

You need to ensure the caliper is in line and central with the disc (there is spacers provided) and have a good bleeding technique (can be a pain with empty calipers) but it's reasonably straight forward.

They are brakes though, so if you are not 100% certain get someone who is to fit them.

I got my dealer to fit Goodridge hoses at the 1K service, so the mod to the bracket may have already been done, if by mod you mean bend?

I'll probably end up using Tiley Motorsport, a few miles to drive but piece of mind.

Did anyone manage to flog the old 4-pot Brembo calipers?

Anders_WR1 wrote:

marky mark wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

You get the lines as well, which requires a slight mod to the little bracket on the strut that keeps it in place.

You need to ensure the caliper is in line and central with the disc (there is spacers provided) and have a good bleeding technique (can be a pain with empty calipers) but it's reasonably straight forward.

They are brakes though, so if you are not 100% certain get someone who is to fit them.

I got my dealer to fit Goodridge hoses at the 1K service, so the mod to the bracket may have already been done, if by mod you mean bend?

I'll probably end up using Tiley Motorsport, a few miles to drive but piece of mind.

Did anyone manage to flog the old 4-pot Brembo calipers?

yes mate, I sold mine for £400, result. I know someone else that wants some, but wanted to spend slightly less, let me know if you want his details..

danr55 wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:

marky mark wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

You get the lines as well, which requires a slight mod to the little bracket on the strut that keeps it in place.

You need to ensure the caliper is in line and central with the disc (there is spacers provided) and have a good bleeding technique (can be a pain with empty calipers) but it's reasonably straight forward.

They are brakes though, so if you are not 100% certain get someone who is to fit them.

I got my dealer to fit Goodridge hoses at the 1K service, so the mod to the bracket may have already been done, if by mod you mean bend?

I'll probably end up using Tiley Motorsport, a few miles to drive but piece of mind.

Did anyone manage to flog the old 4-pot Brembo calipers?

yes mate, I sold mine for £400, result. I know someone else that wants some, but wanted to spend slightly less, let me know if you want his details..

No harm contacting him - PM me his details, but it will be December or Jan before the AP's are going on, which might be too long for him to wait. I'm doing the turbo, injectors and zorst first

Anders_WR1 wrote:

danr55 wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:

marky mark wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:I clocked that Bro must have had both sets done. I saw the rears for sale on the RCM web site (rears were £900). My budget won't stretch to front and rears, but I recon I'll buy a set for the front.

Mark, are they a easy to fit? I've changed discs and pads on the standard set up, I guess there's not much more to it than that?

You get the lines as well, which requires a slight mod to the little bracket on the strut that keeps it in place.

You need to ensure the caliper is in line and central with the disc (there is spacers provided) and have a good bleeding technique (can be a pain with empty calipers) but it's reasonably straight forward.

They are brakes though, so if you are not 100% certain get someone who is to fit them.

I got my dealer to fit Goodridge hoses at the 1K service, so the mod to the bracket may have already been done, if by mod you mean bend?

I'll probably end up using Tiley Motorsport, a few miles to drive but piece of mind.

Did anyone manage to flog the old 4-pot Brembo calipers?

yes mate, I sold mine for £400, result. I know someone else that wants some, but wanted to spend slightly less, let me know if you want his details..

No harm contacting him - PM me his details, but it will be December or Jan before the AP's are going on, which might be too long for him to wait. I'm doing the turbo, injectors and zorst first

will do, he was in no rush anyway.

sounds good mate

Which pads are you all running on your AP's? I've read mixed reports on DS2500's running on 6 pot AP's. Was thinking of trying EBC yellow stuff or Pagid RS29.

Some feedback please

My APs came with DS2500. Personally I can't fault them but I do drive a like a pussy!

What mixed feedback have you heard about DS2500s?

WR1 Bro wrote:My APs came with DS2500. Personally I can't fault them but I do drive a like a pussy!

What mixed feedback have you heard about DS2500s?

I've heard a few people had brake fade with them, even on 355mm discs. I'm fairly hard on my brakes, so I don't want to spend a load of cash and be disappointed - I'd prefer go with different pads from the start.

Anders_WR1 wrote:

WR1 Bro wrote:My APs came with DS2500. Personally I can't fault them but I do drive a like a pussy!

What mixed feedback have you heard about DS2500s?

I've heard a few people had brake fade with them, even on 355mm discs. I'm fairly hard on my brakes, so I don't want to spend a load of cash and be disappointed - I'd prefer go with different pads from the start.

I'm slightly surprised at the idea of brake fade. I've never once felt this with the APs+DS2500s. But like I said, I'm a girl in a rather large body!

I've heard some people consider the brakes to be ON or OFF. I personally don't agree with this as you begin to adjust your brake foot sensitivity when you are used to them.

WR1 Bro wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:

WR1 Bro wrote:My APs came with DS2500. Personally I can't fault them but I do drive a like a pussy!

What mixed feedback have you heard about DS2500s?

I've heard a few people had brake fade with them, even on 355mm discs. I'm fairly hard on my brakes, so I don't want to spend a load of cash and be disappointed - I'd prefer go with different pads from the start.

I'm slightly surprised at the idea of brake fade. I've never once felt this with the APs+DS2500s. But like I said, I'm a girl in a rather large body!

I've heard some people consider the brakes to be ON or OFF. I personally don't agree with this as you begin to adjust your brake foot sensitivity when you are used to them.

I know what you mean about adjusting your brake foot sensitivity. I was driving a works Honda estate prior to WR1 and that had sliding calipers all around. The Brembo's seemed on / off for the first few hundred miles and the brakes weren't bedded in

Anders_WR1 wrote:

WR1 Bro wrote:

Anders_WR1 wrote:

WR1 Bro wrote:My APs came with DS2500. Personally I can't fault them but I do drive a like a pussy!

What mixed feedback have you heard about DS2500s?

I've heard a few people had brake fade with them, even on 355mm discs. I'm fairly hard on my brakes, so I don't want to spend a load of cash and be disappointed - I'd prefer go with different pads from the start.

I'm slightly surprised at the idea of brake fade. I've never once felt this with the APs+DS2500s. But like I said, I'm a girl in a rather large body!

I've heard some people consider the brakes to be ON or OFF. I personally don't agree with this as you begin to adjust your brake foot sensitivity when you are used to them.

I know what you mean about adjusting your brake foot sensitivity. I was driving a works Honda estate prior to WR1 and that had sliding calipers all around. The Brembo's seemed on / off for the first few hundred miles and the brakes weren't bedded in

You should attempt left foot braking with APs.... Pee, poo and snot all over the windscreen!

DS2500's seem fine mate.
they're fully bedded in now so will take more abus over the next couple of weeks, and will let you know how I get on.
left foot braking is also made a lot easier by the hard brake pedal feel, very easy to get the hang of

danr55 wrote:DS2500's seem fine mate.
they're fully bedded in now so will take more abus over the next couple of weeks, and will let you know how I get on.
left foot braking is also made a lot easier by the hard brake pedal feel, very easy to get the hang of

Cheers. Someone on SN is trying Pagid RS29 on the AP's. Will be interested to see what he says too.

We did so many consecutive laps at silverstone and no fade what so ever, DS2500 can't fault then

I have a set of carbontecnik which will be used when the ds2500 are to replaced, got at a giveaway price, so will try anything once