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More power for standard wr1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:03 am
by wr1jimmyhudson
Hi wr1 fans I ve owned my wr1 for 6 months
now and love it although I do think that there
is quite a lot of turbo lag and are wanting
more power which is the best and safest way with
out spending a fortune I'll hope u can help

Re: More power for standard wr1

PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:20 am
by Foley
wr1jimmyhudson wrote:Hi wr1 fans I ve owned my wr1 for 6 months
now and love it although I do think that there
is quite a lot of turbo lag and are wanting
more power which is the best and safest way with
out spending a fortune I'll hope u can help


Dont think there is a safe way to mod the 1
without spend £££££

If your looking for a safe 400bhp then it's bout 6k

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:34 pm
by CAVEMAN
Well for this, the first phase is always exhaust, filter, fuel pump and re-map. But then you are into EcuTek re-flash or stand alone ECU like Motec, Solaris or Simtek...

Next up would be FMIC, and a new turbo, along with new injectors...but by this time you are knocking on the door of the internals not being able to cope..

So question is...

Do you just whack the new turbo on and wait for melt down (admittedly there are some motors that run with 400/400 fine on std internals) - or shell out for a good build to go along with all the above?

Either way buddy - it will never be enough, and whatever route you take it will cost you a few quid...just depends how far you want to push it.

good luck though - we will all be watching!!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:53 pm
by WR 1mposter
Just a remap will set you back £5/600 but you will get around 330bhp.
but you will have brought the ecutek licence so mapping will be cheaper next time round about £300 per session.

For about £1/1.5k , decat 3" exhaust, induction kit, remap will see about 350bhp, but you will get surge if you dont use your gearbox properly an drive around it.

Add another £2k for a different turbo, an 650cc or whichever injectors, remap for around 370bhp

Add another £1400 for a fmic, remap for 400bhp ....

So if you do it for 400bhp in one hit expect around the £4/5k figure depending on whar make of products you want to use an who you want to do it , believe me cheapest ain't the way to go, neither is doing it in different levels as it will cost you a lot more, as it did me ! :roll:

Personally If I were to do it again, I'd go for 400 in one go ! It will save you a lot of money in mapping an labour.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:36 pm
by Foley
but you will get surge if you dont use your gearbox properly an drive around it.

What do you mean by that?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:12 pm
by WR 1mposter
Foley wrote:but you will get surge if you dont use your gearbox properly an drive around it.

What do you mean by that?


When I had the standard turbo with a 3"decat and a few other bits putting out around 350-ish, when travelling in a sedate manner doing say 60mph in 6th and you wished to overtake, instead of changing down you lazily just put your foot down and you would get a slightly violent juddering/fluttering that I was told was turbo surge, the only way arond it was to drop down to 3rd/4th and be higher in the revs, but even this way you would still get it but no where near as bad. the only way around it was to change to a bigger turbo that suited the 3"decat better(380bhp), and to be honest it was the best the car ever drove...(even got a few free spanners :lol:)
To this day my H said why did you ever change that set up :?
knowing what I do now I wished I stayed around 380

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:09 am
by CAVEMAN
what turbo did you go for mate?

Did you change your headers too? Or just straight swap?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:39 pm
by WR 1mposter
CAVEMAN wrote:what turbo did you go for mate?

Did you change your headers too? Or just straight swap?


Went for the aps sr40 and forgot to mention ceramic headers up pipe from lateral so add another £700 on top of the old bill ..£4.5/5.5K :lol:

Or just aswell call it £6k has foley said earlier :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:58 pm
by steve.w
WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:
knowing what I do now I wished I stayed around 380


i know where you're coming from there,looking back now i think the furthest i personally would take a new-age sti/wr1 would be around 380bhp.
having done the bigger turbo,tubular headers and fmic thing,i think fitting an 18g,ported standard headers and staying tmic would have gave me a much more drivable car.
the pull on-boost with the 321h was great but it loses you too much drivability lower down the revs.

so if i were to do it again all i would fit would be...

td05-18g
ported headers&up pipe
3" turbo-back decat
uprated fuel reg
remap(obviously)

thats what i'd recommend anyway,after my own personal experience with a 400+ set-up.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:20 pm
by jimmy
you can take it to 400bhp on the standard sti intercooler

an induction kit is the worst mod on a scooby as they break the MAF sencor

uprated fuel pump,injectors,panel filter,full de-cat,s/s headers and a re-map will see you pass 360+hp,but with a bigger turbo you get more lag so thats out the equation

i dont think they are laggy :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:44 pm
by WR 1mposter
jimmy wrote:you can take it to 400bhp on the standard sti intercooler

an induction kit is the worst mod on a scooby as they break the MAF sencor

uprated fuel pump,injectors,panel filter,full de-cat,s/s headers and a re-map will see you pass 360+hp,but with a bigger turbo you get more lag so thats out the equation

i dont think they are laggy :lol: :lol:


to get 400bhp with standard tmic you'd need a fook off great turbo and get plenty of lag :lol: