2nd hand ap's.

[Gee Wr1]

Ment to add the new hatch back scoob now has AYC control like the evo but we all know that was added to them as part of the dilution of the car to appeal to a wider market, i.e making the car easier to drive! i.e making it less of a drivers car & less hardcore (more like a evo )

[The Swede]

Ment to add the new hatch back scoob now has AYC control like the evo but we all know that was added to them as part of the dilution of the car to appeal to a wider market, i.e making the car easier to drive! i.e making it less of a drivers car & less hardcore (more like a evo )

Goodness. You know even more about cars than pooster. JP should have called you the Octopus.

The new scoob has nothing similar to AYC. The new scoob is even softer than the old one working with a system more similar to ESP than anything.

The rear diff of the new scoob in no way works vectorial.


Here's the evidence that the Subaru engineers are running as much behind the facts as its drivers... They didn't even manage to get the new one to handle properly...

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/evo-vs-scooby

[Ferret WR1]

Pops, they are worth what someone is willing to spend. Credit crunch may well hurt you at the moment. I'd be tempted to asked for £800 since pads and disks are probably required.

I'm tempted to take these of stijoy but I think £800 might be too much for me if I also have to get pads and discs plus fitting. I know Zen Performance do Ferodo DS2500 pads to fit AP 6 pots for £105 +vat, but I can't find discs. How much are replacement AP discs? Anyone know?

stijoy I know you've done 17,000 miles on these APs, but what are the condition of the discs and pad? How much life is left in discs and pads?

Also am I at risk of having the same experience as Megaman, I know stijoy has these APs on a RB320 and mine a WR1.

All comments/feedback appreciated.

Thanks

Ferret WR1

[WR 1mposter]

Disc are about £400 I think !
Try ASP performance for pads they may be cheaper than Zen

[WR 1mposter]

Pops were'nt these painted orange to match the rb320 phone logo?

[WR1 Bro]

Disc are about £400 I think !
Try ASP performance for pads they may be cheaper than Zen

Mention the WR1oc to Alyn for a good price.

[WR1 Bro]

Pops were'nt these painted orange to match the rb320 phone logo?

Mmmm, that rings a bell.

[Ferret WR1]

£800, plus £400 for discs and £100 for pads, £1300 in total. Not so appealing now, might just go for performance friction discs and pads with current Brembo calipers.

[The Swede]

I'd never pay £1300,- for a set of second hand brakes.

I always see selling second hand bits of a car as a 'nice to have': you get some cash rather than throwing things away or, worse, having them filling up your shelves for 10 years before throwing them away...

In that respect, second hand parts should cost a fraction of new ones, not half price.

I'd also rather go for a new set of PF's.

[WR1 Bro]

Ferret, collect the info on prices for pads and disks (they will need replacing) as it would probably be a false economy to fit used pads and disks to shortly have to pay to refit new ones. Weight it up, decide on a price and make him an offer. Money on the table is better than brakes sitting about doing nothing. Obviously checking the colour information along with carriage charges.

If the pads and disks are £500 I would not want to offer more than £500 (half the retail price of the original calipers minus the pads and disks that they were supplied with).

[Ferret WR1]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[WR1 Bro]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

You are welcome fella. Hope to see you on the 7th

[John Mc]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I was also thinking of putting an offer in for these, but when I (read Mega) priced up a new set of pads (£200 ish), discs (£400), briaded hoses (if they weren't supplied!) and the special fluid... a 2nd hand set with 17,000m on should IMO be around £300-400 because of the expense in replacing the used parts!

As you pointed out, this brings it up to the price of a new set (£800 + £600) which is a no-brainer really. Nearly new 2nd hand price with new discs and pads should be about £900...

As Swede rightly says, if you are buying 2nd hand then it should really be a bargain otherwise just buy new!! In this case, 2nd hand would be the price of used calipers (as these shouldn't need replacing, the other parts would) which (IMO) would be around the £300 mark and I bet they would rather keep them than sell them for £300!!

Just my opinion hence why I'm going to buy new.

[The Swede]

Good reasoning.

Unless Pops sells his at approx £300 to you, I'd indeed go new.

[Ferret WR1]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I was also thinking of putting an offer in for these, but when I (read Mega) priced up a new set of pads (£200 ish), discs (£400), briaded hoses (if they weren't supplied!) and the special fluid... a 2nd hand set with 17,000m on should IMO be around £300-400 because of the expense in replacing the used parts!

As you pointed out, this brings it up to the price of a new set (£800 + £600) which is a no-brainer really. Nearly new 2nd hand price with new discs and pads should be about £900...

As Swede rightly says, if you are buying 2nd hand then it should really be a bargain otherwise just buy new!! In this case, 2nd hand would be the price of used calipers (as these shouldn't need replacing, the other parts would) which (IMO) would be around the £300 mark and I bet they would rather keep them than sell them for £300!!

Just my opinion hence why I'm going to buy new.

Yeah I've decided to buy new, but Performance Friction not AP due to the cost.

[John Mc]

Good reasoning.

Unless Pops sells his at approx £300 to you, I'd indeed go new.

Unfortunately, I don't think there's much chance of that happening, I'd personally want to keep them

[John Mc]

Yeah I've decided to buy new, but Performance Friction not AP due to the cost.

Fair play pal.

Bro, Spike, Mega and I are possibly planning to meet at Adam's garage in Buxton read the "USDM" thread which started off as something else!!

If you are around, why not meet up, it'll either be Morrisons (still PMSL) or the Pub if Spike has his way!!

[CAVEMAN]

I just recently added the performance friction disks and pads with new 551 fluid and braided hoses...makes a world of difference over standard crappy brakes.

AP are still king, but for everday driving and light track use I am sure they will be just fine.

[Ferret WR1]

Yeah I've decided to buy new, but Performance Friction not AP due to the cost.

Fair play pal.

Bro, Spike, Mega and I are possibly planning to meet at Adam's garage in Buxton read the "USDM" thread which started off as something else!!

If you are around, why not meet up, it'll either be Morrisons (still PMSL) or the Pub if Spike has his way!!

I'll have a read of the thread.

[Ferret WR1]

I just recently added the performance friction disks and pads with new 551 fluid and braided hoses...makes a world of difference over standard crappy brakes.

AP are still king, but for everday driving and light track use I am sure they will be just fine.

Yeah that what I'm after, how much did it cost you all in? Breakdown please if you don't mind.

[Ferret WR1]

Disc are about £400 I think !
Try ASP performance for pads they may be cheaper than Zen

£400 each or both???

I ask as been quoted £250 for performance friction disc each! I would have thought AP disc would have been more then performance friction.

Do you have a link for ASP performance?

[Foley]

Disc are about £400 I think !
Try ASP performance for pads they may be cheaper than Zen

£400 each or both???

I ask as been quoted £250 for performance friction disc each! I would have thought AP disc would have been more then performance friction.

Do you have a link for ASP performance?

http://www.asperformance.com/

[WR 1mposter]

Disc are about £400 I think !
Try ASP performance for pads they may be cheaper than Zen

£400 each or both???

I ask as been quoted £250 for performance friction disc each! I would have thought AP disc would have been more then performance friction.

Do you have a link for ASP performance?

Pretty sure they are £400-ish for both