does the remap make a big or small difference

by **ROSSCO** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:57 pm

Ihave been informed by andy forrest the subaru wr1 can be remapped to approx 340bhp and 340ft/lb of torque , does this make a noticable difference, the reason i ask is i had a 5.7l v8 monaro with 333bhp and got it mapped to 390 bhp. i didn't think it was much better . My last car however was 510bhp vxr 500 monaro, what a machine in a straight line ,0-100 9 secs , top speed 190mph come the twisties , no use at all.

Thanks

Ross

by **Scutch** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:46 pm

Mine was mapped by Andy with full system exhaust, de-catted and K&N Induction kit. Trouble is, I had the remap done more or less a couple of weeks after I bought the car, and the modifications done even sooner so I was running the car off boost. In that respect its difficult for me to gauge just how much better the car is running with the map.

Andy said he was very impressed with it though, and claimed it was 348bhp and 330lb/ft torque, I believe. The torque would have been higher had I used an APS or other wing fitted induction kit, as the K&N was causing problems bringing in the early boost, but as such the mid-range is far better.

by **Foley** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:59 pm

Scutch wrote:Mine was mapped by Andy with full system exhaust, de-catted and K&N Induction kit. Trouble is, I had the remap done more or less a couple of weeks after I bought the car, and the modifications done even sooner so I was running the car off boost. In that respect its difficult for me to gauge just how much better the car is running with the map.

Andy said he was very impressed with it though, and claimed it was 348bhp and 330lb/ft torque, I believe. The torque would have been higher had I used an APS or other wing fitted induction kit, as the K&N was causing problems bringing in the early boost, but as such the mid-range is far better.

How much did andy charge you for the remap if you don't mind me asking. Thinking of getting mine done there soon,

by **Scutch** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:07 pm

Foley wrote:
Scutch wrote:Mine was mapped by Andy with full system exhaust, de-catted and K&N Induction kit. Trouble is, I had the remap done more or less a couple of weeks after I bought the car, and the modifications done even sooner so I was running the car off boost. In that respect its difficult for me to gauge just how much better the car is running with the map.

Andy said he was very impressed with it though, and claimed it was 348bhp and 330lb/ft torque, I believe. The torque would have been higher had I used an APS or other wing fitted induction kit, as the K&N was causing problems bringing in the early boost, but as such the mid-range is far better.

How much did andy charge you for the remap if you don't mind me asking. Thinking of getting mine done there soon,

I'm pretty sure it was around Â£450. Any further mapping would be around Â£150.

Lot of information on it here : http://andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16280.html

by **Megaman** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:11 am

Ive spoken to a few people who say remapping the standard car can change power delivery but not really give you any gains. In order to get noticeable gains you need to change a few other bits on the car making it quite expensive. This is unlike my other car where a remap doubled the boost from 0.6bar to 1.2 bar and added +55bhp alone which was a big difference.

by **bbigman2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:26 am

Ross,

The VXR500 is only 493bhp and does not do 100mph in 9 seconds !

The M5 only does it in 9.4 !

P.s Why the change from a 35k/40k VXR 500 to a 12/14k Wr1 ?

by **Megaman** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:38 am

bbigman2000 wrote:Ross,

The VXR500 is only 493bhp and does not do 100mph in 9 seconds !

The M5 only does it in 9.4 !

P.s Why the change from a 35k/40k VXR 500 to a 12/14k Wr1 ?

He has found he like to drive a decent car unlike these M5 and VXR owners

by **bbigman2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:12 pm

As I've said before mate, the wr1 unit is like a starter motor compared to the V10

by **Megaman** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:15 pm

bbigman2000 wrote::lol: As I've said before mate, the wr1 unit is like a starter motor compared to the V10

AND as ive said before you will have to take me out for a spin and convince me !! :lol:

by **John Mc** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:47 pm

bbigman2000 wrote::lol: As I've said before mate, the wr1 unit is like a starter motor compared to the V10

Granted... the M5 needs something to help it get to 60 quicker so why not put a WR1 engine in, does the job nicely? :lol:

by **ROSSCO** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:42 pm

The vxr500 i had was running 550bhp, i sold that car after 8 weeks , got fed up with the constant wheel spinning , have owned 2 subaru's in the past and fancy another

by **John Mc** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:11 pm

ROSSCO wrote:The vxr500 i had was running 550bhp, i sold that car after 8 weeks , got fed up with the constant wheel spinning , have owned 2 subaru's in the past and fancy another

I found the best way to stop the wheels spinning on any car is to park it up... :lol:

Anyone else got any thoughts/tips?

by **bbigman2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:16 pm

Rossco, You quoted it at 510bhp in your first post!

Megaman and John, you gent's will never look back once you have experienced the V10 at 9000rpm in 4th :wink:

by **Megaman** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:17 pm

I find that if you leather it at a hump back bridge pretending to be the Dukes of Hazard and get some air... that when the car lands with a huge crash that the wheels soon stop spinning... RIP Fiat Uno 1998.. :lol:

by **bbigman2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:18 pm

It's clear you are hankering after a nice green new focus RS mate, thats the only thing that will be on its roof with all that power two those two little skinny unic-cycle wheels :lol:

by **John Mc** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:43 pm

9000rpm V10 in 4th Hmmm nice.... (spinning on the roof because of rear wheel drive in the wet) :lol:

by **Megaman** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:00 pm

bbigman2000 wrote:It's clear you are hankering after a nice green new focus RS mate, thats the only thing that will be on its roof with all that power two those two little skinny unic-cycle wheels

Why would I want a new focus RS when my ST is quicker ?

by **bbigman2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:06 pm

John, BMW's dont spin, well not M5's anyway, hence I can pull off a 4.1 second dash to 60mph with the aid of a very hi tech launch control called M Dynamic Mode !

Megaman, I bet you have a well active ebay account, buying parts for that thing :lol:

by **Megaman** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:25 am

bbigman2000 wrote:John, BMW's dont spin, well not M5's anyway, hence I can pull off a 4.1 second dash to 60mph with the aid of a very hi tech launch control called M Dynamic Mode !

Megaman, I bet you have a well active ebay account, buying parts for that thing

and i bet you get through a set of rear tyres every 6,000 miles in that M5 with its "M Dynamic Mode"...

by **John Mc** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:44 am

bbigman2000 wrote:John, BMW's dont spin, well not M5's anyway, hence I can pull off a 4.1 second dash to 60mph with the aid of a very hi tech launch control called M Dynamic Mode !

Megaman, I bet you have a well active ebay account, buying parts for that thing

In the wet on a greasy road? I don't believe you, M-Dynamic mode (aka Klaus) will be flicking the power switch on and off in a vein attempt to gain traction through the 2 wheels.

I reckon you'd lose control quicker than you would get to 60.. film it on a wet greasy track... :lol:

by **Megaman** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:00 pm

dare i even mention Snow and M5 in the same sentance?

by **John Mc** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:05 pm

Megaman wrote:dare i even mention Snow and M5 in the same sentance?

Dare you... oh you did... :lol:

The M5 is a heavyweight motorway cruiser capable of amazing straightline speed in the dry, hence in the USA they are popular because they don't have bends or roundabouts... :wink:

by **POESY** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:35 pm

Try a VXR8 Carbon Edition :shock:

Massive power and torque - levels an M5 can only dream of!!

I got taken for a spin in one by one of my brothers friends and just couldnt believe the acceleration. Bonkers, absolutely bonkers...

...or, if your feeling realy flush, just buy a 997 Turbo and go 0 - 100 in 8 Seconds

...

...even a "mapped" wr1 might struggle against these 2 beasties

by **Ferret WR1** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

I once saw a VXR8 Carbon Edition on Piston Heads, looked mint

by **The Swede** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:55 pm

ROSSCO wrote:Ihave been informed by andy forrest the subaru wr1 can be remapped to approx 340bhp and 340ft/lb of torque , does this make a noticable difference, the reason i ask is i had a 5.7l v8 monaro with 333bhp and got it mapped to 390 bhp. i didn't think it was much better . My last car however was 510bhp vxr 500 monaro, what a machine in a straight line ,0-100 9 secs , top speed 190mph come the twisties , no use at all.

Thanks

Ross

I remapped my ex-wife but even the 150K I spent on her didn't help. A Â£200 neckalce for my mistress was much more effective but then again the basis was less impressive and added to the ex-wife pay-out. This is why I splashed out on another girlfriend afterwards. The pay-out on wife did not change but the girl was much more efficient and satisfying.

by **bbigman2000** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:24 pm

Launch control does work in the wet gents, obviously its not quite as effective, but you better not knock its ability until you try it for yourselves :wink:

Swede, I wouldnt thank you for any glorified vectra's buddy pmsl

by **Megaman** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:49 pm

bbigman2000 wrote:Launch control does work in the wet gents, obviously its not quite as effective, but you better not knock its ability until you try it for yourselves

Swede, I wouldnt thank you for any glorified vectra's buddy pmsl

I cant believe the car is still rapid on damp or greasy roads compared to a 4wd system... unless the germans have done some funky shit

by **CAVEMAN** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:42 am

funnily enough, i have just come back from the BMW R&D centre in Munich...and trust me they do do some VERY funky shit!!

What an awesome place!!

by **POESY** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 am

Ferret WR1 wrote:I once saw a VXR8 Carbon Edition on Piston Heads, looked mint

That could be the one I was in. He bought it off a dealer who had it advertised on Pistonheads.

The acceleration is absolutely mental, i mean ive been in some highly tuned quick jap crap but the thing was beyond them.

Think its something like 600/580 and he paid Â£35k with 7k on the clock - bargain!!

by **CAVEMAN** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:05 am

doesn't matter how much grunt it has got...or could have. Fact remains it is still a GM car and hence will always be seen as a Vauxhall.

Maybe badge snobbery, but I know which one I would rather have in my garage. No questions asked...all day long.

V8 is good, but a screaming V10...oh my, god's own engine that one.

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