Understeer, anti roll bars, camber etc

[Megaman]

Hiya,

I would like to get rid of some of the understeer of the WR1. The biggest place that I find it understeering is when i go around a corner and gradually accelerate from the corner apex. The car seems to push itself to the outside of the corner quite a lot. I have tried this with the diff fully open but it doesnt seem to resolve the issue. Speaking to some guys this weekend they suggested:

anti roll bars
anti lift kits
drop links
coil overs
strut braces
etc.

Can anyone ellaborate on this and tell me exactly what I need to get and how or who can set them up for me?

Also any idea why subaru's setup doesnt seem to have much camber on the front wheels compared to other cars?

Cheers

Martin

[WR 1mposter]

Round corner hit go pedal rear squats front lifts .....ouch !


Whiteline f/r arb's and anti lift kit and a good geometry set up will be the cheapest option. Strut braces also the sti one look good, but pricey there are cheaper alternatives.

Coilovers, ast are a decent, and reasonable price, exe-tc are imho better but have them so .... either way you won't go wrong

[dynamix]

anti roll bars

22mm adjustable front and rear whiteline arb's will be your best bet for road use. Rear set to hard and front to soft.

anti lift kits

I wouldnt bother. They are a misnomer and are actually a pro-lift kit. The only useful thing they will do for you is 0.5 castor. A decent geometry set up will do this anyway.

drop links

Arent the WR1 rear drop links solid anyway?

coil overs

Best solution for tuning the roll centre/roll axis which will really effect how much understeer you get but it is expensive to buy good stuf. Dont be tempted to take the cheap option as just cos it says coilovers on the tin doesnt mean they all work the same. Exe-tc is what i have and I dont think you can get any better for less than £2k

strut braces

Dont do a lot when on road, I would bet money you wouldnt even notice the difference.

etc.

Geometry set up with a good amount of negative camber at the front and good castor angles will help the understeer go.

I use:
Front.
2.5 deg neg camber
6 deg castor
1mm toe in

Rear.
1.5 deg neg camber
zero toe

It seems to work for me.

[marky mark]

Good advice from Duncan.

Anti lift kits and strut braces have minimal effect.

Just a rear ARB and a pro geometry set up are the best VFM, even with the standard shocks.

[Megaman]

Great advice there thanks guys, any recommendations over who would be best to go for to get this work done?

Im based in Leeds so anywhere near there would be great although if it means driving to scooby clinic or rcm etc i will do if thats the best option to get a good installation and a good geometry setup.

[marky mark]

Scoobyclinic? Don't go near em. A lot of people really rate them but i have worked on a few cars myself that they had done conversions or rebuilds on and the standard of their work is awful.

RCM do a good geometry set up (Ask Bro, and i can also recommend), Also powerstation Nr tewkesbury have a great reputation on these sort of things. Dynamix will have far more experience of these kinds of things than me so i would carefully consider his advice..

Its a piece of pi$$ to fit your own ARB.

[WR1 Bro]

Scary mary setup combined with the RCM400 turbo and the like.

RCM did a great set-up for sure. Tyre wear seems pretty even so far. I'd use them again for sure.

[Megaman]

Okay mate, two local garages get a lot of kit from scooby clinic and recommended them but if their work is poor im not interested. Just going to multimap powerstation to see how far that is compared to leicester.

[marky mark]

Okay mate, two local garages get a lot of kit from scooby clinic and recommended them but if their work is poor im not interested. Just going to multimap powerstation to see how far that is compared to leicester.

Its about 60 miles further

[WR1 Bro]

Okay mate, two local garages get a lot of kit from scooby clinic and recommended them but if their work is poor im not interested. Just going to multimap powerstation to see how far that is compared to leicester.

Leicester must be easier... straight down the M1.

[Megaman]

170 for powerstation
vs
112 for rcm

[marky mark]

Okay mate, two local garages get a lot of kit from scooby clinic and recommended them but if their work is poor im not interested. Just going to multimap powerstation to see how far that is compared to leicester.

Its about 60 miles further

I appologise for my inaccuracy of 2 miles

[Megaman]

not a bad guess mate

[WR1 Bro]

not a bad guess mate

Don't big him up..... Next he will be calling you when drunk and talking dirty to you!

[marky mark]

not a bad guess mate

Don't big him up..... Next he will be calling you when drunk and talking dirty to you!

I don't know Mega well enough for that...I'm a shy boy deep down.

[danr55]

How much is a geo setup at RCM? I might pop in there for one while im in the area at the end of month if they can fit me in

[Megaman]

Hey wait your turn Dan... Just because youve a 500bhp forged, quad turbo charged, supercharged, nos powered, AC inducted monster of an STI... doesnt mean to say you can juump the queue at RCM

[marky mark]

I believe Bro got his free!

[WR1 Bro]

Sush!!