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Rear Shocks Gone

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:52 pm
by Shane
So the inevitable has happened - my rear shock absorbers have started to knock :(

Im thinking of getting these shocks and getting my local garage to fit them as other people have mentioned them on here, can anyone confirm if they are the right model please?

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m10b0s2696p30 ... on_WRX_STi

I assume the WR1 uses the same shocks as a normal STI and its the springs that give the lower ride hight?

Is it just a case of using the new shocks with the old springs etc or will anything else need replacing?

Thanks for any help

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:33 pm
by Micktype WR1
same product is regularly for sale on Ebay from The Motorists Centre for £284 pr so the Camskill deal looks good.

In the short term, get the wheels off the ground and spray the shafts regularly. It's kept mine in quite good nick for the last 2 years. I just get an occasional "feel" of a clunk but never with any sound.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:09 pm
by Shane
Just to confirm - WR1's use the same shocks as a normal STI Impreza despite the lower ride hight?

Thanks

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:19 pm
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
Micktype WR1 wrote:same product is regularly for sale on Ebay from The Motorists Centre for £284 pr so the Camskill deal looks good.

In the short term, get the wheels off the ground and spray the shafts regularly. It's kept mine in quite good nick for the last 2 years. I just get an occasional "feel" of a clunk but never with any sound.


Same here..... :wink: whiteline grease sprayed on the shaft with teh dust covers pulled back :thumb:

See the link below where you take them apart and fix a greasing nipple which is used alot in the US to good effect.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiP4DG_ ... AAB617C4DA

My mate in the local garage will be doing this for me very soon.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:38 pm
by NewSuboy
If its only just knocking then here is what I did...

I jacked the car up, pushed back the plastic outer strut cover to reveal the inner chrome strut and the then sprayed it with silicone spray (not too much) and then lowered the car and jacked it up a few times so that the silicone got in and lubricted everything ....

fixed my knocking completely

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:03 pm
by rossm
I've got a similar problem with the rear n/s shock knocking. Having a look under the rubber collar there are clear signs of contact all over the piston so I have ordered a couple of the standard rear KYB Ultra SRs from here:

http://www.buypartsby.co.uk

Came to around £210 delivered which was cheaper than Camskill. Should tide me over until I get the AP brake kit and then look into coilovers. Hopefully this may be useful for others in the same boat...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:15 pm
by Matty WR1
mine is booked in for x2 new rear shocks/fitting and full geometry with crossroads for £450 :D happy with that :) :) :)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:42 pm
by Matty WR1
Shane wrote:Just to confirm - WR1's use the same shocks as a normal STI Impreza despite the lower ride hight?

Thanks


i checked this out chap, sti shocks with prodrive springs :D

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:52 pm
by rossm
Matty WR1 wrote:mine is booked in for x2 new rear shocks/fitting and full geometry with crossroads for £450 :D happy with that :) :) :)


That's good, my local dealer quoted just over £500 for one side only!

I was going to have a crack at changing the rear shocks myself but having spent a few hours changing the rear ARB today (drop links were a b!tch to get off due to corrosion) the clearance to the lower bolts looks tight and apparently they are extremely difficult to get off without a hefty impact wrench. I may see what quotes I can get from a couple of friendly garages...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:16 pm
by Matty WR1
Or drive over to crossroads, we might get a discount mate ;) :D

Not to far 8)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:07 am
by Crockel
Matty WR1 wrote:mine is booked in for x2 new rear shocks/fitting and full geometry with crossroads for £450 :D happy with that :) :) :)


The question I have is how- I don't believe it (imagine Victor Meldrew voice)?! The parts alone are well over £450 (the labour isn't a big element of the job). The full geometry must be £75-100 in itself. I assume that this is some kind of warranty job or other concession?

L

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:18 pm
by Matty WR1
Crockel wrote:The question I have is how- I don't believe it (imagine Victor Meldrew voice)?! The parts alone are well over £450 (the labour isn't a big element of the job). The full geometry must be £75-100 in itself. I assume that this is some kind of warranty job or other concession?

L


Nope, all straight pricing....

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:04 pm
by Crockel
Matty WR1 wrote:
Crockel wrote:The question I have is how- I don't believe it (imagine Victor Meldrew voice)?! The parts alone are well over £450 (the labour isn't a big element of the job). The full geometry must be £75-100 in itself. I assume that this is some kind of warranty job or other concession?

L


Nope, all straight pricing....


How do they manage that then? I use an specialist independent and have used the same one for around 7 years. He charges labour at £55 an hour (way under dealers) and assured me he would only make around 5% on the parts. The shocks alone were around £500 with his modest mark up. If the top mounts need replacing (which they often will) it's another £150ish on top just for those parts.

I still can't see how they can do all that work unless they are doing it for love and don't mind losing money! It just doesn't stack up-or the car you are taking in isn't a WR1.

L

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:43 pm
by Matty WR1
I'll scan in the invoice once the work is completed at the end of the month mate.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:34 am
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
Crockel wrote:
Matty WR1 wrote:
Crockel wrote:The question I have is how- I don't believe it (imagine Victor Meldrew voice)?! The parts alone are well over £450 (the labour isn't a big element of the job). The full geometry must be £75-100 in itself. I assume that this is some kind of warranty job or other concession?

L


Nope, all straight pricing....


How do they manage that then? I use an specialist independent and have used the same one for around 7 years. He charges labour at £55 an hour (way under dealers) and assured me he would only make around 5% on the parts. The shocks alone were around £500 with his modest mark up. If the top mounts need replacing (which they often will) it's another £150ish on top just for those parts.

I still can't see how they can do all that work unless they are doing it for love and don't mind losing money! It just doesn't stack up-or the car you are taking in isn't a WR1.

L


Main stealers will get huge discounts on parts as they buy as Subaru UK so the buying power will be way beyond an independant!

I expect crossroads may actually pass this discount on and charge a nominal % profit on cost for the parts.

The labour will still be the usual rates but as they need to keep operatives working thats why teh material discount occurs.

No point having someone stood there costing money doing nothing by trying to make a huge mark up on parts and bidding yourself out of the market!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:11 am
by Crockel
Matty WR1 wrote:I'll scan in the invoice once the work is completed at the end of the month mate.


That would be great thanks. If they are prepared to sell the shocks that cheap there could be a rush on buying rear shocks!

L

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:16 am
by Crockel
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
Crockel wrote:
Matty WR1 wrote:
Crockel wrote:The question I have is how- I don't believe it (imagine Victor Meldrew voice)?! The parts alone are well over £450 (the labour isn't a big element of the job). The full geometry must be £75-100 in itself. I assume that this is some kind of warranty job or other concession?

L


Nope, all straight pricing....


How do they manage that then? I use an specialist independent and have used the same one for around 7 years. He charges labour at £55 an hour (way under dealers) and assured me he would only make around 5% on the parts. The shocks alone were around £500 with his modest mark up. If the top mounts need replacing (which they often will) it's another £150ish on top just for those parts.

I still can't see how they can do all that work unless they are doing it for love and don't mind losing money! It just doesn't stack up-or the car you are taking in isn't a WR1.

L


Main stealers will get huge discounts on parts as they buy as Subaru UK so the buying power will be way beyond an independant!

I expect crossroads may actually pass this discount on and charge a nominal % profit on cost for the parts.

The labour will still be the usual rates but as they need to keep operatives working thats why teh material discount occurs.

No point having someone stood there costing money doing nothing by trying to make a huge mark up on parts and bidding yourself out of the market!


I'd like to think you are right but it seems to me that people on the boards either use a Main Stealer or an independent. Those determined to get a main dealer service stamp in the service book never seem to hear that the service is normally as good (in my experience much better) from independents and a hell of a lot cheaper. As they have got a captive audience and they know people will always use them I am cynical that main stealers would cut the price on parts-but you may well be right and the invoice later this month will tell us for sure!

Cheers

L

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:34 pm
by Matty WR1
Blimey, who'd have thought that getting a good deal would create so much crap!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm also thinking of having a samco pro-r set of hoses fitted, does that need investigation? :lol: :lol: :lol: :arrow:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:38 pm
by Crockel
Matty WR1 wrote:Blimey, who'd have thought that getting a good deal would create so much crap!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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No, exactly the opposite mate I am chuffed to see someone get a good deal. I am interested because when the next bit of work needs doing on my car i will be looking round for a deal to match yours! :D :D :D

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:53 pm
by Matty WR1
SIDC discount helps :D saves me 10% on everything 8)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:12 pm
by Steveyk
With a view to this thread, my rear n/s shock is also knocking. can somebody tell me why coilovers are better? :?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:58 pm
by Matty WR1
What a difference the new struts have made :)

My setup was a little out on the front end as well, and man alive does the car feel better :D

PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:25 pm
by Crockel
Matty WR1 wrote:What a difference the new struts have made :)

My setup was a little out on the front end as well, and man alive does the car feel better :D


Any chance of seeing the invoice now? :lol: :lol: :wink: