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Gear Change / Warning beep...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:54 am
by MaverickUK82
What is the ideal place to have the rev warning beeper come on? I assume it could be a good way to indicate a gear change is needed.

I suppose, technically, it would be perfect to have it mark the point where the power starts to tail off and where changing up a gear would drop the revs to just before the peak of the power. If this is the case... where should it be set?

I bet there is a scientific method to work this out using gear ratios and a dyno print out...? But I bet you guys already know the answer.

Sorry if I'm being anal, the cars still new and want to know everything about it.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:58 am
by Foley
I have mine set at 6500rpm,

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:03 am
by Azyman
same as that 6500 as it takes me time to change gear :D

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:31 pm
by Gee Wr1
6k then have my Rvit set for 7k.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:35 pm
by MaverickUK82
Rvit?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:06 pm
by The Swede
When I had my scoob, I checked how long it took me between hearing a beep and shifting up.

Next see how high in revs you want to go when and count back.

I think I used to have mine around 6200rpm. Gave the time to hear the blip and change gear at the right moment.

So to answer your question, get the right moment to shift "scientifically" and then add your own personal reaction time to it.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:53 pm
by MaverickUK82
The Swede wrote:So to answer your question, get the right moment to shift "scientifically" and then add your own personal reaction time to it.


Great. Now, for the scientific bit...

Any scientists in the house say Oiiiii!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:02 pm
by The Swede
MaverickUK82 wrote:
The Swede wrote:So to answer your question, get the right moment to shift "scientifically" and then add your own personal reaction time to it.


Great. Now, for the scientific bit...

Any scientists in the house say Oiiiii!


You won't find that answer here.

Why don't you do some research.

You need to figure out how much revs your drop at each gearchange and the work out at what point you shift so that you don't fall into a revrange where you have less power than at the point where you shifted up. Simples.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:56 pm
by MaverickUK82
The Swede wrote:You need to figure out how much revs your drop at each gearchange and the work out at what point you shift so that you don't fall into a revrange where you have less power than at the point where you shifted up. Simples.


That is exactly what I meant to say. I couldn't word it like that. Excellent..

Where can I find the gear ratios for the WR1? It's not in the handbook...

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:18 pm
by The Swede
MaverickUK82 wrote:
The Swede wrote:You need to figure out how much revs your drop at each gearchange and the work out at what point you shift so that you don't fall into a revrange where you have less power than at the point where you shifted up. Simples.


That is exactly what I meant to say. I couldn't word it like that. Excellent..

Where can I find the gear ratios for the WR1? It's not in the handbook...


You don't need the gear ratios, you need to go out for a drive and shift up high in revs and check how many rpm it drops.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:29 pm
by MaverickUK82
I see what you mean now. simples!

Where's the peak power on the WR1?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:53 pm
by WUZ
Peak point to change would be about 6750rpm so set your change light /bleeper to approx 6400 rpm to allow for reaction time.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:12 pm
by The Swede
Peak power came at 5800rpm in the WR1.

(Ever heard of google ? :wink:)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:21 pm
by MaverickUK82
WUZ wrote:Peak point to change would be about 6750rpm so set your change light /bleeper to approx 6400 rpm to allow for reaction time.


Cool. what makes 6750 the best place then?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:43 pm
by The Swede
MaverickUK82 wrote:
WUZ wrote:Peak point to change would be about 6750rpm so set your change light /bleeper to approx 6400 rpm to allow for reaction time.


Cool. what makes 6750 the best place then?


Who said 6750 was the right place ?

It's probably because, if you shift at 6750 the revs drop to exactly that point on the rev curve before 5800rpm where the engine has the same power...

(or because you're about to hit the rev limiter :lol:)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:45 pm
by MaverickUK82
What revs are the rev limiter set at on the WR1 - never tried hitting it.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:36 am
by Foley
MaverickUK82 wrote:What revs are the rev limiter set at on the WR1 - never tried hitting it.


I use to hit the rev limiter 1st 2nd 3rd 4th all the time till i set the shift up bleeper,

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:19 pm
by GARETH BALDWIN
the bleeper is a stupid gimmick, as far as i am concerned each gear has its own best rpm to change up from..depends on torque!! shift lights are set at different rpm for each gear. i used to use the bleeper to save fuel when i felt in a sensible mode. which wasnt often. and if you want to get the best experiance from your wr1...track day!! i took mine to knockhill and it was great. apart from the guys in the novas and chevettes who thought it was a banger race!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:36 am
by Pitta
how do you put the beep on? mine just lights up lol

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:34 am
by GARETH BALDWIN
errr...read the fookin handbook!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:31 am
by Gee Wr1
Pitta
Turn the ignition till the dash lights up don't start it, then using the little stalk on the left side of the clock faces turn it. Can't mind the order it goes from memory but it'll ask to set the shift point then leave it a few seconds & it'll ask on or off turn the stalk till it says on then leave it & it should set itself.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:35 am
by M9JOC
GARETH BALDWIN wrote:errr...read the fookin handbook!



:D :D luv it

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:36 am
by Gee Wr1
GARETH BALDWIN wrote:the bleeper is a stupid gimmick, as far as i am concerned each gear has its own best rpm to change up from..depends on torque!! shift lights are set at different rpm for each gear. i used to use the bleeper to save fuel when i felt in a sensible mode. which wasnt often. and if you want to get the best experiance from your wr1...track day!! i took mine to knockhill and it was great. apart from the guys in the novas and chevettes who thought it was a banger race!!



:shock: OMG you didn't go on KH on a speed sunday/hot hatch day did you? Thats brave! They're just banger derbys full of idiots :lol: SIDC do track days there or there's the Hot Marque nights these are better/safer as there are a lot better driving at these days.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:07 pm
by Ferret WR1
Pitta wrote:how do you put the beep on? mine just lights up lol


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:11 pm
by Pitta
GARETH BALDWIN wrote:errr...read the fookin handbook!

NOT IN THE HAND BOOK!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:35 pm
by WR 1mposter
Pitta wrote:
GARETH BALDWIN wrote:errr...read the fookin handbook!

NOT IN THE HAND BOOK!!!!


Yes it is ! :lol: :lol: Section 3- 13/14


drrippppp :lol: :lol:


Also the rev alarm if not set ,rev indicator flashes when entering the red zone !



so has Garath says RTFM :lol: