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hi whats the best anti roll bars for the WR1

or some suggestions on what ones you lot have on

Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

Ditto... just had them fitted 2 weeks ago. Make a nice difference to the car IMO... more predictable on the limits although the limits appear slightly reduced (if that makes sense)??

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

Ditto... just had them fitted 2 weeks ago. Make a nice difference to the car IMO... more predictable on the limits although the limits appear slightly reduced (if that makes sense)??

I understand what you are saying. However, I have driven with more anger since the rollbars were fitted because I feel more confident in knowing my limit.

Cat'n'Fiddle again this evening for a stretch of the legs!!

WR1 Bro wrote:

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

Ditto... just had them fitted 2 weeks ago. Make a nice difference to the car IMO... more predictable on the limits although the limits appear slightly reduced (if that makes sense)??

I understand what you are saying. However, I have driven with more anger since the rollbars were fitted because I feel more confident in knowing my limit.

Cat'n'Fiddle again this evening for a stretch of the legs!!

Agreed... you can find your limits more predictably before they find you!!

You going to the pub or just for a blast along the road?

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:

WR1 Bro wrote:

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

Ditto... just had them fitted 2 weeks ago. Make a nice difference to the car IMO... more predictable on the limits although the limits appear slightly reduced (if that makes sense)??

I understand what you are saying. However, I have driven with more anger since the rollbars were fitted because I feel more confident in knowing my limit.

Cat'n'Fiddle again this evening for a stretch of the legs!!

Agreed... you can find your limits more predictably before they find you!!

You going to the pub or just for a blast along the road?

Just for a blast... Football on this evening should ensure nice quiet roads...

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

where is the best/cheapest place to order them from please?

Hi Geoff,the paint on the Whiteline roll-bars is rubbish,Olly is having some roll-bars done by Eibech which look very nice.have a word with him before you buy.
Chris

Chris B wrote:Hi Geoff,the paint on the Whiteline roll-bars is rubbish,Olly is having some roll-bars done by Eibech which look very nice.have a word with him before you buy.
Chris

will do
hows the car going with the new turbo set up?

Azyman wrote:

jd wrote:Whiteline 22mm front 24mm adjustable rear

where is the best/cheapest place to order them from please?

Shop around, I bought mine from Powerstation.

For Whiteline stuff get in touch with Geo who i just told to join the site, he registered under the user name "gp motorsport"

This is the man to speak to for anything Whiteline related be it advice or sales.

He's a really nice bloke who'll help you out Met him at the McRae stages rally last year & had a good blether with him.

Azyman wrote:hi whats the best anti roll bars for the WR1

or some suggestions on what ones you lot have on

hi there hope you dont mind me answering your question
22mm front abs with alloy klc 32 drop links for alloy arms
24mm rear adjustable bar with klc 26 rear drop links
complimented by an anti lift kit and if lowered or coilovers to get the roll centre back, fit a roll centre adjusting kit kca 313
its all about front grip to cure the dreaded understeer
you want loads of caster on the front suspension and medium camber
cheers geo

Its maybe worth adding that the more you tweak the caster/camber/toe etc... the greater the tyre wear... changing these settings too much on a mates impreza made his tyres last 5-6k from 11-12k so a fair difference using same branded tyres...

[quote="Megaman"]Its maybe worth adding that the more you tweak the caster/camber/toe etc... the greater the tyre wear... changing these settings too much on a mates impreza made his tyres last 5-6k from 11-12k so a fair difference using same branded tyres...[/

too much camber will wear tyres out quickly ,for a road car you have to decide between handling and tyre performance
so what you need imho is greater caster slightly more camber than o/e and properly toe settings
chers geo

Here are the settings my local garage gave me. What would you recommend the best setup is for a road car to have the best compromise between handling and tyre wear?

Megaman, that's an interesting post, I will check these settings against my last geo.

We need a definitive set up on these for sure.

Thats the third post I have seen with geo settings and they are all different.

Even the Subaru Owners Manual is different, but this would be the regular Sti I presume.

Front and Rear Toe = 0
Front Camber = -0degs 25secs
Rear Camber = -1degs 30 secs

Yer - its a mine field for us guys who just want the car to handle well and not shred tyres within 2000 miles...

CAVEMAN wrote:We need a definitive set up on these for sure.

Thats the third post I have seen with geo settings and they are all different.

Even the Subaru Owners Manual is different, but this would be the regular Sti I presume.

Front and Rear Toe = 0
Front Camber = -0degs 25secs
Rear Camber = -1degs 30 secs

Regular STI settings for sure, but on the service book there should be a sticker stating prodrive lowering sprinngs fitted..admit this may be of use to subaru dealers only ....

otherwise ring zen or rcm for what the recommend for fast road, you wont get a disimilar answer

Megaman wrote:Yer - its a mine field for us guys who just want the car to handle well and not shred tyres within 2000 miles...

Exe tc settings tyres lasted 15 k's and stil had 2/3 k's left
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Now i have uprated my anti roll bars (rear set on medium).. and added strut braces front and back... do i need to alter car geometry in order to stop the back end kicking out quite as easily and if so what do you recommend?

Megaman wrote:Now i have uprated my anti roll bars (rear set on medium).. and added strut braces front and back... do i need to alter car geometry in order to stop the back end kicking out quite as easily and if so what do you recommend?

Mega have you hae ALK fitted has well ?

Megaman wrote:Now i have uprated my anti roll bars (rear set on medium).. and added strut braces front and back... do i need to alter car geometry in order to stop the back end kicking out quite as easily and if so what do you recommend?

I never had this problem and my rear ARB was always on the firm setting. If we meet soon I want a passenger ride to see how you drive. I fully admit I drive like a girl... Girl enough to see Spike constantly trying to hit the passenger brake pedal.

WR1 Bro wrote:

Megaman wrote:Now i have uprated my anti roll bars (rear set on medium).. and added strut braces front and back... do i need to alter car geometry in order to stop the back end kicking out quite as easily and if so what do you recommend?

I never had this problem and my rear ARB was always on the firm setting. If we meet soon I want a passenger ride to see how you drive. I fully admit I drive like a girl... Girl enough to see Spike constantly trying to hit the passenger brake pedal.

Yes agree it's all about the driver, as female passenger naggs on and driver goes strait on round corner they soon shut up

oh im sure it is my driving style - im used to FWDs after all...

no alk fitted mate no just the strut brace front and rear and the arbs...

im willing to take u on the section of road where it happens bro if u like...

i might try and test the diff on manual too to see if forcing it to about 70/30 split helps things...

I roll my diff all the way back and then push it forward one.