MOTEC ECU?

[JP]

Has anyone got a Motec on their scoob? What is it like?

[danr55]

Expensive. You get what you pay for. Chris B has one.

[JP]

Thanks Dan.

I am speaking to RCM on this for dates and installation, but wanted to get an external view of anyone who is already running it in their scoob.

[WR1 Bro]

One can only assume you are going for a built engine?

Bring it on bad boy.

[JP]

Well the Solaris ECU cost an arm and a leg, but sadly Pat (Mapper) and his business partner are not prepared to provide the support on it as I have switched from Scooby Clinic to another tuner.

From a personal point, I think it is quite unprofessional and irresponsible of Pat to take this approach as it is his product (Solaris ECU)! A product which sadly there are not many who can map it (if any really!). Ofcourse, I should have carried out this research but you live and learn! Time to move on to bigger and better things as they say!

As for the engine build.....watch this space......

[WR1 Bro]

Why have they let you down with the mapping Jagrat? One would have thought that if you wanted a remap then your money would be as good as the next persons?

I think it is a little unfair to be negative towards them without the full details?

[JP]

Sadly it is more politically based. Scooby Clinic (SC) carried out the works on my car, though Pat was the one who installed the Solaris ECU as he owns half of it. Incidently Pat only does SC's cars (self employed basis), and since I have decided not to use SC, lets say the service from Pat to support the ECU in my car isn't exactly forthcoming!

[WR1 Bro]

Wow, that is dynamic service for you!!

[danr55]

interesting. Strange he wont support it if someone else has tuned it. oh well, his loss I guess.

Motec/RCM/Built engine is the way forward. twisted turbo, too.

[WR1 Bro]

interesting. Strange he wont support it if someone else has tuned it. oh well, his loss I guess.

Motec/RCM/Built engine is the way forward. twisted turbo, too.

Don't forget the brake and suspension upgrates whilst you are there.

[WR 1mposter]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

[danr55]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

so what have you done to upset him Jag?!

[WR 1mposter]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

so what have you done to upset him Jag?!

That is probably more like it !

300 text's 100 answer phone messages ...........CALL ME !

[JP]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

My error - thanks for correcting me Martin I was advised by SC obviously something different hence one of the reasons I have chosen not to use them again!

I wish I had sent him 300 texts and 1000 phone messages....then he may have returned my calls!

With all due respect, the ECU cost me £1,600 and I would expect some sort of a customer service when things start playing up each week on my car i.e. electrics etc!

[WR 1mposter]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

My error - thanks for correcting me Martin I was advised by SC obviously something different hence one of the reasons I have chosen not to use them again!

I wish I had sent him 300 texts and 1000 phone messages....then he may have returned my calls!

With all due respect, the ECU cost me £1,600 and I would expect some sort of a customer service when things start playing up each week on my car i.e. electrics etc!

Get your money back from Pat/solaris and give Steve Simpson a call and fit a simtek ecu, at least this way Steve will return your call he has been 100% with me !

[WR1 Bro]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

My error - thanks for correcting me Martin I was advised by SC obviously something different hence one of the reasons I have chosen not to use them again!

I wish I had sent him 300 texts and 1000 phone messages....then he may have returned my calls!

With all due respect, the ECU cost me £1,600 and I would expect some sort of a customer service when things start playing up each week on my car i.e. electrics etc!

Get your money back from Pat/solaris and give Steve Simpson a call and fit a simtek ecu, at least this way Steve will return your call he has been 100% with me !

Steve Simpson would have a meltdown with you two numpties on his case. God help him.

[WR 1mposter]

Pat does not just map SC prepared cars !
100% certain he does mapping for other tuners such as GRD API etc !

My error - thanks for correcting me Martin I was advised by SC obviously something different hence one of the reasons I have chosen not to use them again!

I wish I had sent him 300 texts and 1000 phone messages....then he may have returned my calls!

With all due respect, the ECU cost me £1,600 and I would expect some sort of a customer service when things start playing up each week on my car i.e. electrics etc!

Get your money back from Pat/solaris and give Steve Simpson a call and fit a simtek ecu, at least this way Steve will return your call he has been 100% with me !

Steve Simpson would have a meltdown with you two numpties on his case. God help him.

Wrong !

He would have a meltdown if a egotistic numnut like you were to even think of it !

[JP]

Steve Simpson would have a meltdown with you two great chaps on his case. God help him.

Martin - Cheers for the recommendation. I understand that Paul at Zen can map Solaris which may be an option??

[WR1 Bro]

Having made the decision it would be an expensive job to then change to MOTEC? Unless you can get a refund on the Solaris ECU?

[WR 1mposter]

Steve Simpson would have a meltdown with you two great chaps on his case. God help him.

Martin - Cheers for the recommendation. I understand that Paul at Zen can map Solaris which may be an option??

Zen have a good reputation all round make it so mr jagoo

[dynamix]

Paul at Zen loves Solaris - top ecu and way better than Simtek.

[JP]

Cheers Chaps . I do so much regret now having Scooby Clinic carry out my mods - it's just been a bloody headache having spent so much money! However, that's in the past, and so time to move forward and resolve my current probs on the "1".

I had a good chat with Paul at Zen today - he sounds like a friendly and helpful chap. I understand that he has so far fitted and mapped 3 Solaris ECUs in Scoobs and Zen are planning to use a Solaris ECU in their 2009 racing car! I have booked to go down to see him in 2 weeks time.

As Bro points out wisely it will be expensive to get a MOTEC without getting a refund on the Solaris. Or atleast selling it.

Dan - Did enquire about the Motec with RCM but they weren't able to confirm prices and times.

[danr55]

Cheers Chaps . I do so much regret now having Scooby Clinic carry out my mods - it's just been a bloody headache having spent so much money! However, that's in the past, and so time to move forward and resolve my current probs on the "1".

I had a good chat with Paul at Zen today - he sounds like a friendly and helpful chap. I understand that he has so far fitted and mapped 3 Solaris ECUs in Scoobs and Zen are planning to use a Solaris ECU in their 2009 racing car! I have booked to go down to see him in 2 weeks time.

As Bro points out wisely it will be expensive to get a MOTEC without getting a refund on the Solaris. Or atleast selling it.

Dan - Did enquire about the Motec with RCM but they weren't able to confirm prices and times.

Motec is expensive, 3 or 4k IIRC? using the Solaris and getting Zen to map seems a much more sensible option

[WR1 Bro]

I thought MOTEC was around the £2k mark? Marky Mark knows more about this. He is a god.

[jd]

Get your money back from Pat/solaris and give Steve Simpson a call and fit a simtek ecu, at least this way Steve will return your call he has been 100% with me !

DATE FOR YOUR DIARY!


I will agree with Imposter on this, fit a Simtek.

[WR1 Bro]

Get your money back from Pat/solaris and give Steve Simpson a call and fit a simtek ecu, at least this way Steve will return your call he has been 100% with me !

DATE FOR YOUR DIARY!


I will agree with Imposter on this, fit a Simtek.

Strikes me, without some sort of justification this sort of information is bordering on useless.

1) I've got a Simtek it must be the best thing on the planet.

Without reasoning you are wasting our time.

Are you saying it is the best in the world?
Are you saying by your criteria it is the best in relation to price?
Are you saying that it is the best because you can spell it?
What exactly are you saying? Do you know yourselves?

Just because Dumb and Dumber have come to an agreement it would personally make me look elsewhere given your rocky roads to negligible achievement both under the bonnet and in your lives as a whole.

[JP]

Dan/Stu - Think Motec prices will depend on the mode. Came across this link which gives some indication on the models and prices:

http://www.reworx.com/products_electron ... _MOTEC.htm

[jd]

OK then Bro,

Yes I do have the 1st Simtek fitted to a newage so maybe I am biased.

But when deciding on the modifications for my car with the aim on keeping the internals standard, I looked around at the best value for money ecu with the features I required for current and future modifications. The Simtek fitted the bill.

Motec are very good if you are looking into a full race ecu with datalogging etc, but on a road car?

[Gee Wr1]

Lets just hope Steve Simpson can map the Simtek better than he can Gems as he made a right arse of mapping a few cars with that ecu, this comment is from experience not here say or read from a forum as 1 of those cars mentioned is sitting in my garage (not my wr1 but 1 of our other scoobs) Mapped so rich the petrol was practically running out the exhaust & causing bore wash! When it was remapped the new mapper couldn't believe what he was seeing on his screen!

Might be better with Simtek as its his own ecu which in fairness to him i've read nothing but good reports about in press & on forums.

[WR 1mposter]

So we have a debate on which ecu !

My first preference was go for "Motec" but at around £2k, then mapping on top, it is a bit expensive, but probably the most complete out there.

With the "Simtek" I paid £1050+vat with mapping originally mapped by Steve Simpson. I've since been fitted with a bosch fuel pump, fpr and rcm induction, due to it maxxing out with the previous stuff, although tuners were told to fit them before Steve mapped So just waiting on a conveinent time for myself and Steve to map again !

Which one is better, I've no idea.