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Postby danr55 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:53 am

Right then everyone! Time to get this trip sorted.

I would suggest a leaving date of Thursday 7th August, by ferry to Calais. From memory a return ferry for 1 car is around £60.

Then staying here - www.burgstube.com highly recommended with good accomodation very close to the Ring, also good food and beer. Staying Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, and leaving on Sunday for a return ferry.

Accommodation is approximately 37 Euros per night per person. We need to confirm numbers for this sooner rather than later, and pay a deposit.

Ring open as follows:

Thursday 5:15pm -7:30pm
Saturday 11am-7:30pm
Sunday 11am-7:30pm

This should give everyone plenty of flexibility on when they want to go out for a few laps.

Social events TBC, but will involve mostly beer :D

Now, who's coming?

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Postby Ferret WR1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:18 pm

This would most certainly be an excellent event and one to not miss out on, however the first thing that comes to my mind and probably will do for others is cost.

Quick check on Google maps, say 1,250 miles round trip for me :shock:

This alone is just about £300 in fuel, also how much is it to drive on the ring?

I'm no Swede, so next thing comes to mind is track insurance just in case, any ideas how much this will cost?

Also what about normal insurance, I'm guessing most insurance companies will insurance within Europe free of charge for a certain period.

And finally any tips/courses for training prior to this?

If the cost works out reasonable, I might just put my name down as I know it's a once in a lifetime opportunity well for me at least :wink:
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Postby danr55 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:22 pm

Ferret WR1 wrote:This would most certainly be an excellent event and one to not miss out on, however the first thing that comes to my mind and probably will do for others is cost.

Quick check on Google maps, say 1,250 miles round trip for me :shock:

This alone is just about £300 in fuel, also how much is it to drive on the ring?

I'm no Swede, so next thing comes to mind is track insurance just in case, any ideas how much this will cost?

Also what about normal insurance, I'm guessing most insurance companies will insurance within Europe free of charge for a certain period.

And finally any tips/courses for training prior to this?

If the cost works out reasonable, I might just put my name down as I know it's a once in a lifetime opportunity well for me at least :wink:


I think the Ring works out around £10/10 Euros per lap - ish. bare in mind when we have been before we have bought a ticket for 4 laps, and that has been enough, it's a very long way round, as we're there for a couple of days, you might want to do this say on 2 days, so buget perhaps for up to £100 for laps on the Ring.

The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there, otherwise:

look into track insurance, likely not be to be cheap.
Just drive within your limits - this will be more than enough fun!

Your normal insurance should cover you to drive in Europe

Final tips? if you have a playstation or xbox get a racing game with the nordschleife circuit on, play it a lot. it wont be 100% accurate in terms of the elevation changes, but at least it will give you a little bit of a clue as to how some of the corners go, but be aware it will be different when you get there, and learning the track takes a long time. You dont need to know the track to have fun though

Hope this helps. Ask anyone who has been on one of our trips before, and they will confirm it is a fantastic experience

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Postby WR1 Bro » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:39 pm

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Postby The Swede » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Only Ring ?
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Postby danr55 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:48 pm

The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?
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Postby Ferret WR1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:51 pm

danr55 wrote:I think the Ring works out around £10/10 Euros per lap - ish. bare in mind when we have been before we have bought a ticket for 4 laps, and that has been enough, it's a very long way round, as we're there for a couple of days, you might want to do this say on 2 days, so buget perhaps for up to £100 for laps on the Ring.

The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there, otherwise:

look into track insurance, likely not be to be cheap.
Just drive within your limits - this will be more than enough fun!

Your normal insurance should cover you to drive in Europe

Final tips? if you have a playstation or xbox get a racing game with the nordschleife circuit on, play it a lot. it wont be 100% accurate in terms of the elevation changes, but at least it will give you a little bit of a clue as to how some of the corners go, but be aware it will be different when you get there, and learning the track takes a long time. You dont need to know the track to have fun though

Hope this helps. Ask anyone who has been on one of our trips before, and they will confirm it is a fantastic experience

Get your name down :thumb:


"The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there"

Public/toll road, wasn't aware of that. Not quite sure how I would verify that with my insurance :?

It's just for reassurance, that in the unlikely event someone crashes into me or I happen to cause a crash involving others, I'll be covered.

What have you lot done in the past?
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Postby danr55 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:57 pm

Ferret WR1 wrote:
danr55 wrote:I think the Ring works out around £10/10 Euros per lap - ish. bare in mind when we have been before we have bought a ticket for 4 laps, and that has been enough, it's a very long way round, as we're there for a couple of days, you might want to do this say on 2 days, so buget perhaps for up to £100 for laps on the Ring.

The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there, otherwise:

look into track insurance, likely not be to be cheap.
Just drive within your limits - this will be more than enough fun!

Your normal insurance should cover you to drive in Europe

Final tips? if you have a playstation or xbox get a racing game with the nordschleife circuit on, play it a lot. it wont be 100% accurate in terms of the elevation changes, but at least it will give you a little bit of a clue as to how some of the corners go, but be aware it will be different when you get there, and learning the track takes a long time. You dont need to know the track to have fun though

Hope this helps. Ask anyone who has been on one of our trips before, and they will confirm it is a fantastic experience

Get your name down :thumb:


"The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there"

Public/toll road, wasn't aware of that. Not quite sure how I would verify that with my insurance :?

It's just for reassurance, that in the unlikely event someone crashes into me or I happen to cause a crash involving others, I'll be covered.

What have you lot done in the past?


Who's your insurer? I have never had insurance for the Ring before. I will probably get it this time as I get a good deal with my current insurance company
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Postby Ferret WR1 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:07 pm

danr55 wrote:Who's your insurer? I have never had insurance for the Ring before. I will probably get it this time as I get a good deal with my current insurance company


Admiral, who's yours and what track insurance deal are they offering you?
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Postby danr55 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:31 pm

Ferret WR1 wrote:
danr55 wrote:Who's your insurer? I have never had insurance for the Ring before. I will probably get it this time as I get a good deal with my current insurance company


Admiral, who's yours and what track insurance deal are they offering you?


I'm with Keith Michaels. you should look at getting a quote from them next time you renew as you will get a good deal through the wr1oc...
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Postby dynamix » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:02 pm

danr55 wrote:
The Ring is actually a public/toll road so check with your insurance whether you are insured to drive there, otherwise:

Please dont ring your insurer to ask them whether you are covered - they will say no and once they have said no that is it.

Check the policy document though and if it doesnt say you are not covered - you are.

danr55 wrote:look into track insurance, likely not be to be cheap.
Just drive within your limits - this will be more than enough fun!

Your normal insurance should cover you to drive in Europe

Final tips? if you have a playstation or xbox get a racing game with the nordschleife circuit on, play it a lot. it wont be 100% accurate in terms of the elevation changes, but at least it will give you a little bit of a clue as to how some of the corners go, but be aware it will be different when you get there, and learning the track takes a long time. You dont need to know the track to have fun though

Hope this helps. Ask anyone who has been on one of our trips before, and they will confirm it is a fantastic experience

Get your name down :thumb:


Sounds like a great trip - I wont be joining it though as I am prob out there a couple of weeks later with the family and friends.
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:37 am

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Postby presa900 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:14 pm

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Yep it is worth getting a quote from Keith Michaels, I used to be with them before I sold the WR1, they did me track cover for £75 a day which was extremely good, I got covered for Spa and the Ring last year 8)
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Postby BIG"E" » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:36 pm

I think you might find this helpfull:

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/


With regards to insurance its like a minefield, Kieth Michaels will only insure you if you have an existing policy £60 per day with £2000 excess.
I have a company that Gary Moulson suggested:

http://www.moris.co.uk/
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Postby The Swede » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:14 pm

danr55 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?


Hmmm... Can't find one straight away.

There are some open trackdays organised in Spa I know of, but not in August.
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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:26 pm

The Swede wrote:
danr55 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?


Hmmm... Can't find one straight away.

There are some open trackdays organised in Spa I know of, but not in August.


So will you join us at the Ring?
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Postby Ferret WR1 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:23 pm

presa900 wrote:Yep it is worth getting a quote from Keith Michaels, I used to be with them before I sold the WR1, they did me track cover for £75 a day which was extremely good, I got covered for Spa and the Ring last year 8)


Thanks Presa, at £75 I'll look into it! :thumb:
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Postby Ferret WR1 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:30 pm

BIG"E" wrote:I think you might find this helpfull:

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/


With regards to insurance its like a minefield, Kieth Michaels will only insure you if you have an existing policy £60 per day with £2000 excess.
I have a company that Gary Moulson suggested:

http://www.moris.co.uk/


http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/insurance.html really put everyone standard insurance out the window for the ring! :shock:
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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:59 pm

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presa900 wrote:Yep it is worth getting a quote from Keith Michaels, I used to be with them before I sold the WR1, they did me track cover for £75 a day which was extremely good, I got covered for Spa and the Ring last year 8)


Thanks Presa, at £75 I'll look into it! :thumb:


You have to be insured with them to get track cover with them..
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Postby BIG"E" » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:59 pm

The current track prices are:

2009 prices:
1 - €22
4 - €75
8 - €145
15 - €250
25 - €390
JK - €1075
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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:59 pm

BIG"E" wrote:The current track prices are:



2009 prices:
1 - €22
4 - €75
8 - €145
15 - €250
25 - €390
JK - €1075



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Postby BIG"E" » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:15 pm

danr55 wrote:
BIG"E" wrote:The current track prices are:



2009 prices:
1 - €22
4 - €75
8 - €145
15 - €250
25 - €390
JK - €1075



Cheers. :thumb:

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Unfortunatly no.

I will be going with the local scooby club "South East Scoobies"

In May/June. The more I read about the Ring the more nervous I am getting, and I am also having trouble justifying the costs as I am currently out of work the building industry here in the south east is crap.
My WR1 is my pride and joy all I keep hearing about is horror stories.
Is it worth the RISK? Is it as bad as people make out? are there that many accidents??


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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:23 pm

BIG"E" wrote:
danr55 wrote:
BIG"E" wrote:The current track prices are:



2009 prices:
1 - €22
4 - €75
8 - €145
15 - €250
25 - €390
JK - €1075



Cheers. :thumb:

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Unfortunatly no.

I will be going with the local scooby club "South East Scoobies"

In May/June. The more I read about the Ring the more nervous I am getting, and I am also having trouble justifying the costs as I am currently out of work the building industry here in the south east is crap.
My WR1 is my pride and joy all I keep hearing about is horror stories.
Is it worth the RISK? Is it as bad as people make out? are there that many accidents??


:? :? :?


There's regularly accidents. If you drive within your limits you will have tons of fun and there's no need to crash!
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:05 pm

danr55 wrote:
BIG"E" wrote:
danr55 wrote:
BIG"E" wrote:The current track prices are:



2009 prices:
1 - €22
4 - €75
8 - €145
15 - €250
25 - €390
JK - €1075



Cheers. :thumb:

Will you be joining us?




Unfortunatly no.

I will be going with the local scooby club "South East Scoobies"

In May/June. The more I read about the Ring the more nervous I am getting, and I am also having trouble justifying the costs as I am currently out of work the building industry here in the south east is crap.
My WR1 is my pride and joy all I keep hearing about is horror stories.
Is it worth the RISK? Is it as bad as people make out? are there that many accidents??


:? :? :?


There's regularly accidents. If you drive within your limits you will have tons of fun and there's no need to crash!


There are crashes everyday, if there is a bad one or a fatality the police are involved as "the ring" is a public road !

You have to look out for the barry sheene brigade as most of them are fast on the straight and all over the place on the corners. Y

You have to go there is no place like it, even if you do the 4 lap and drive steadily.... 2nd lap you want to go faster for sure :lol: unlike me who done 1 warm up and and broke down :roll: :roll:
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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:35 pm

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The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?


Hmmm... Can't find one straight away.

There are some open trackdays organised in Spa I know of, but not in August.


Zandvoort on Tuesday the 11th August - £250? hmmm. has an 88db drive by limit though - what's that in real money?
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Postby WR 1mposter » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:27 pm

danr55 wrote:
The Swede wrote:
danr55 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?


Hmmm... Can't find one straight away.

There are some open trackdays organised in Spa I know of, but not in August.


Zandvoort on Tuesday the 11th August - £250? hmmm. has an 88db drive by limit though - what's that in real money?


88 db mean were to anti social to attend :lol: :lol:
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Postby danr55 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:47 pm

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danr55 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Only Ring ?


At this stage yes, unless you find a trackday either side of these dates you want to organise as an optional "bolt on" for people?


Hmmm... Can't find one straight away.

There are some open trackdays organised in Spa I know of, but not in August.


Zandvoort on Tuesday the 11th August - £250? hmmm. has an 88db drive by limit though - what's that in real money?


88 db mean were to anti social to attend :lol: :lol:


I've checked and this means way over 100db static as it's measured from 30m, so this is a possibility if people fancy it. Could be awesome actually, supposed to be a great track!!
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Postby royston1214 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:46 pm

Hi all

Just to let you all know the last stop for Shell V Power prior to embarking on the Ferry at Dover, is at Jnc 11 on the M20 the Services are called STOP 24 once you have filled up the journey time to the Port is approx 15min.
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Postby Megaman » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:19 pm

Im interested in this although Ive no race gear... would i need a helmet and overalls or anything to go on the ring?
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Postby danr55 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:30 pm

Megaman wrote:Im interested in this although Ive no race gear... would i need a helmet and overalls or anything to go on the ring?


Absolutely nothing. You dont have to wear a helmet, and certainly dont need race overalls. you just turn up and drive at the Ring!!
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