Hello from Dynamix

[Houdini]

Hi Houdini

I was in 3rd for the mountain (spinning over the crest) and held in 3rd right into the wooded section. I tried changing to 4th but it didnt feel right or offer any advantage in time (in fact the opposite).

Thanks for the compliments - power has been upped today so all prepared and ready for Knockhill ... bring it on

Thought so. Spot on Good luck and let us know how you get on

[Houdini]

same as me, i started in second up the mountain and eventually found 3rd better. found i hit the top of the revs in 3rd by the next bend and wanted a bit more before braking, but going into 4th just meant coming straight back for 3rd again

Agreed! I did want to dip to 2nd briefly then back up and do the 90R in 3rd to see what the torque would do but we ran out of time - plus it's your car mate - not something I would like to take liberties with. I really liked being in the passenger slot though - you have less nerves than me entering the track and your racecraft is also really good.

Fab day all round

[dynamix]

Were you keeping it in 5th for Coppice?

I was braking down to about 110mph for that one.

[danr55]

Were you keeping it in 5th for Coppice?

I was braking down to about 110mph for that one.

in the afternoon - yes

[Houdini]

Were you keeping it in 5th for Coppice?

I was braking down to about 110mph for that one.

Had to go to 6th then back down again, but we were starting to get fuel surge then so backed off from that point. I don't know what speed I was doing as the speedometer was too high up

[marky mark]

its quite interesting looking at the gears you use around cadwell.

On a bike thats geared to top out in 6th the back straight, you get 6th down the start finish straight for a second before snicking back to 5th and throwing it into coppice.

Did anyone get any lap times? I assume you don't use the mickey mouse chicane just after Mansfield in a car?

Welcome by the way Dynamix!

[Houdini]

its quite interesting looking at the gears you use around cadwell.

On a bike thats geared to top out in 6th the back straight, you get 6th down the start finish straight for a second before snicking back to 5th and throwing it into coppice.

Did anyone get any lap times? I assume you don't use the mickey mouse chicane just after Mansfield in a car?

Welcome by the way Dynamix!

I didn't do any lap times, Mark, and you're right - it was on the full circuit going through Hall Bends etc. Dynamix may have more info on gears/times though

[marky mark]

I know you were on the full circuit Fraser, i was just wondering if the cars use the chicane after mansfield (the downhill left hander after the gooseneck) or you just have a straight run from Mansfield to the bottom of the mountain.

[Houdini]

Ah! I see! No, we didn't use the chicane - just a straight run to the mountain.

[dynamix]

My walk though of a lap:

3rd through Hall Bends down to 2nd for the hairpin
short shift to 3rd for Barn then up 4th then 5th for the straight. braked down to 110 for Coppice and powered through keeping weight on the rear to stop it stepping out.

Changed to 4th then into Charlies 1 staying wide and straightening up and dabbing brakes and turning for apex of Charlies 2 to bring the front in better. (The cone was in the wrong place here)

Into 5th on Park straight and held power on over the crest braking just before surface change and down to 3rd for Park. (again the cone was in the wrong place here)

Short shift to 4th (no braking) for Chris Curve and accelerate through this and headed for the brown tarmac (hitting 100) and then on brakes and down to 3rd for Gooseneck. Over the apex of the first part and a really early apex for part 2 and basically head for the field but just keeping it on track.

Into 4th down the hill before standing on the brakes, into 3rd and trailbraking right to the apex of Mansfield, then applying the power to stop the back coming round. Keeping right to cut across the curve, into 4th and head straight at the turn point for The Mountain.

Change down into 3rd and hug first apex and start applying power just after the apex and throw it into second part still on the power avoiding getting too close to the pesky cone things on the apex Up over the hill in 3rd and hold up past the restaurant.

Someone timed a few of my laps in the afternoon and they were mid 1min 40's with varying levels of traffic. I am guessing your bike times would be way less than that

[Houdini]

Good lap, and you're right about the cones. Are you coming on the next WR1OC event?

[marky mark]

My walk though of a lap:

3rd through Hall Bends down to 2nd for the hairpin
short shift to 3rd for Barn then up 4th then 5th for the straight. braked down to 110 for Coppice and powered through keeping weight on the rear to stop it stepping out.

Changed to 4th then into Charlies 1 staying wide and straightening up and dabbing brakes and turning for apex of Charlies 2 to bring the front in better. (The cone was in the wrong place here)

Into 5th on Park straight and held power on over the crest braking just before surface change and down to 3rd for Park. (again the cone was in the wrong place here)

Short shift to 4th (no braking) for Chris Curve and accelerate through this and headed for the brown tarmac (hitting 100) and then on brakes and down to 3rd for Gooseneck. Over the apex of the first part and a really early apex for part 2 and basically head for the field but just keeping it on track.

Into 4th down the hill before standing on the brakes, into 3rd and trailbraking right to the apex of Mansfield, then applying the power to stop the back coming round. Keeping right to cut across the curve, into 4th and head straight at the turn point for The Mountain.

Change down into 3rd and hug first apex and start applying power just after the apex and throw it into second part still on the power avoiding getting too close to the pesky cone things on the apex Up over the hill in 3rd and hold up past the restaurant.

Someone timed a few of my laps in the afternoon and they were mid 1min 40's with varying levels of traffic. I am guessing your bike times would be way less than that

IIRC my best time (supersport 600) was a 1min 33.9 secs at the 1998 BSB round. This was before the chicane was added so the same track as you. There was a lot less run off at Charlies and Barn then

BSB Lap record is a 1 min 27 sec something

Gears on a bike -

6th gear on start finish (just), down to 5th for Coppice, 4th or 3rd (depending on gearing set up) for Charlies, top along Park straight, down 4 into 2nd for Park. 3rd and then 4th just before Chris curve. 2nd for gooseneck, up 1 and then back down to second as you go down hill.
3rd/4th/5th along bottom straight back down to 3rd for bottom of mountain. Over the top airborne and then you have a choice of either revving it out and not dropping back a gear for Hall bends or short shifting to 4th and then knocking it down. Back to 2nd for the hairpin then 3rd on the run to Barn before going down the start straight again.

[dynamix]

:thumb: Good lap, and you're right about the cones. Are you coming on the next WR1OC event?

when / what is this?

[Houdini]

:thumb: Good lap, and you're right about the cones. Are you coming on the next WR1OC event?

when / what is this?

Right now the next event is at Bruntingthorpe on Sunday 29th July(seperate threads under the events section).

Although this might not look like much, it is an absolute highlight on the calendar. There are two principal reasons for this. The first is that because we attend as a club the costs are very low indeed (in fact, neglible). The second is that you have the continual opportunity to take passengers around the track, each of whom must contribute to charity, whilst experiencing the best you have to offer. You can imagine the giggles . They have the thrills more than you but the best part is making them laugh as you go round. That, for me, is worth every best lap I've ever done.

TBH, the outright best part for me is to take disabled children round the track during the time allotted. I'm the first to queue up for that and the experience is immensely rewarding. It's great to see them fighting off their parents as they fawn over them whilst you hustle through the gears only to find their faces full of glee. The parents tend to be either ashen-faced or asking for another go.

I know this is not a typical track event and there will be more proper ones, no doubt, but this is an ideal opportunity to do some track work and some socialising at the same time. Bear in mind that the track is not always stonechip-free and if you want to go be quick! There's already a very large contingent.

[dynamix]

Hmm - wont be able to make this as I will be heading down from Time Attack in Scotland that day Sounds a good event

[danr55]

Hmm - wont be able to make this as I will be heading down from Time Attack in Scotland that day Sounds a good event

keep you eye on events, there's more stuff coming up

[Houdini]

Hmm - wont be able to make this as I will be heading down from Time Attack in Scotland that day Sounds a good event

keep you eye on events, there's more stuff coming up

[pcm]

you mean prodrive springs on std STi suspension?

whiteline ARB's would flatten it off in the corners for sure.

Have you had your geometry set up? I have found that makes the biggest difference in handling for very little money. Certainly the best VFM mod I have done handling wise.

yep prodrive springs on standard suspension. actually the car handled just fine other than that one corner but i did like to come over that crest rather quick and stand on the brakes before it and chuck it a bit sideways LOL

ask Fraser (houdini) he drove it and said it handled really well, and boy can he drive

doesnt feel like it needs geometry doing, having owned an Evo I'm sure it's set up well at the moment!!

maybe i'll try the whiteline kit next

Thanks for the kind words, Dan. Actually I'm crap - I just can't see over the steering wheel and just guess when to turn, so I never have any fear

Truth be told - thank you very much for letting me drive your car. Considering that I only intended to be a passenger for the day it was a real treat to get behind the wheel, and both Easytrack and yourself really made my day

ALSO.....

Hi Duncan! A very warm welcome indeed, and good luck for Knockhill. That used to be my old stomping ground and still a favourite track of mine. Your car looked extremely well prepped and looked very good handling through the esses. I spent a fair amount of time watching you go round and had a quick question - Were you in 3rd gear for the mountain or 2nd? Also, your line through the esses looked very similar to mine. Were you holding that at max revs in 3rd or had you changed to 4th?

Cheers!

Sorry to hijack the thread

You have PM

[Houdini]

you mean prodrive springs on std STi suspension?

whiteline ARB's would flatten it off in the corners for sure.

Have you had your geometry set up? I have found that makes the biggest difference in handling for very little money. Certainly the best VFM mod I have done handling wise.

yep prodrive springs on standard suspension. actually the car handled just fine other than that one corner but i did like to come over that crest rather quick and stand on the brakes before it and chuck it a bit sideways LOL

ask Fraser (houdini) he drove it and said it handled really well, and boy can he drive

doesnt feel like it needs geometry doing, having owned an Evo I'm sure it's set up well at the moment!!

maybe i'll try the whiteline kit next

Thanks for the kind words, Dan. Actually I'm crap - I just can't see over the steering wheel and just guess when to turn, so I never have any fear

Truth be told - thank you very much for letting me drive your car. Considering that I only intended to be a passenger for the day it was a real treat to get behind the wheel, and both Easytrack and yourself really made my day

ALSO.....

Hi Duncan! A very warm welcome indeed, and good luck for Knockhill. That used to be my old stomping ground and still a favourite track of mine. Your car looked extremely well prepped and looked very good handling through the esses. I spent a fair amount of time watching you go round and had a quick question - Were you in 3rd gear for the mountain or 2nd? Also, your line through the esses looked very similar to mine. Were you holding that at max revs in 3rd or had you changed to 4th?

Cheers!

Sorry to hijack the thread

You have PM

Thanks, Immy. Will give you a buzz shortly.

[dynamix]

all packed up and ready for the trip north to Knockhill - should be a great laugh with the guys from BigPower and a huge learning experience for me on a strange track miles from home

Will post a report if you are interested. Well I will post one anyway

[marky mark]

Definetly interested Duncan!

Good luck fella.

Beat Samuel Kerr's P1 and i will stump up for a few beers.

[WR1 WOZA]

Good luck m8 I wish i could go in the Attck maybe next year !
Have fun ! sounds like you should do quite well !

[dynamix]

Definetly interested Duncan!

Good luck fella.

Beat Samuel Kerr's P1 and i will stump up for a few beers.

hmmm Sam's been going well .... will be very hard I reckon - but I'm game for a laugh

[WR1 Bro]

Definetly interested Duncan!

Good luck fella.

Beat Samuel Kerr's P1 and i will stump up for a few beers.

hmmm Sam's been going well .... will be very hard I reckon - but I'm game for a laugh

Be warner..... It will be harder to get the beers off Marky Mark than to beat the P1!

[dynamix]

I'd be over the moon with a 1 min lap there - who, that beats I dont know but that is my target.

Beers are always a great incentive to try a little bit harder

I think i'm about 120 bhp down on power and 200kg up on weight on Sam ... but if it is raining .....................

[WR1 Bro]

Dynamix... you are a breath of fresh air to this site

[dynamix]

Dynamix... you are a breath of fresh air to this site

lol

you wait til i bore the crap out of you about the ring trip in september and then the one in October ........

You have to love subaru's - they are superb

[marky mark]

Dynamix... you are a breath of fresh air to this site

lol

you wait til i bore the crap out of you about the ring trip in september and then the one in October ........

You have to love subaru's - they are superb

Couldn't agree more, all of them have that special 'something'

[Houdini]

Dynamix... you are a breath of fresh air to this site

Damn right!

[Houdini]

Dynamix... you are a breath of fresh air to this site

lol

you wait til i bore the crap out of you about the ring trip in september and then the one in October ........

You have to love subaru's - they are superb

Can't wait!