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Orbital Sander for Polishing...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:41 am
by MaverickUK82
http://www.axminster.co.uk/pricing/INC/cid/8SQEFNRR6ONYNU615XWHLV2S20JI7AF9/product-Makita-BO5031-Random-Orbit-Palm-Sander-797379.htm

Would this be suitable for polishing the WR1 with AutoGlyms Paint Renovator? Followed by AutoGlyms Super Resin Polish.

It's a dual-action one I think.

If so, how would you do it? It appears to be flat - how would you polish the contours without polishing the 'corners' too much?

What pads should I get for it?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:52 am
by John Mc
Take a quick look at the polished bliss site for pads etc... they sell the machines too but will give you an idea of the pads available (sizes, spindle reqs etc).

I'm guessing that you've never done this before? (I haven't and wouldn't want to try unless it was an old car which didn't matter if I cocked up!!) A mate of mine tried his hand at it and royally cocked it up, cost him £500 to fix it :lol: (I did laugh)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:03 pm
by WR1 Bro
I can't open the link. PM Clark and ask his advice. If it is a "random" polisher then you'd have to be really stupid to do something wrong. Use common sense and you'll be fine.

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) Tiddler (Dogging Expert), are you wearing a skirt today?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:20 pm
by Gee Wr1
Thats an actual sander for sanding wood doors etc not polishing.

Have a look at the polished bliss site & there is a duel action machine for not much more than the sander your looking at. You'll get all the pads you neeed from them to & there are detailed guides on how to do it all.

I used my mates one a few months ago but only used a finishing polish to be on the safe side as i was just loking for a better finish than i could get by hand not full correction i'll leave full correction to the pros like Clark.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:37 pm
by John Mc
WR1 Bro wrote:I can't open the link. PM Clark and ask his advice. If it is a "random" polisher then you'd have to be really stupid to do something wrong. Use common sense and you'll be fine.

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) Tiddler (Dogging Expert), are you wearing a skirt today?


I'm not sure mate, why? It was dark when I got dressed....

I didn't understand the cryptic txts you were sending re:YMCA etc... what was all that about?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:19 pm
by WR1 Bro
John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:I can't open the link. PM Clark and ask his advice. If it is a "random" polisher then you'd have to be really stupid to do something wrong. Use common sense and you'll be fine.

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) Tiddler (Dogging Expert), are you wearing a skirt today?


I'm not sure mate, why? It was dark when I got dressed....

I didn't understand the cryptic txts you were sending re:YMCA etc... what was all that about?


OMG - how off topic can on get?

MHDE

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:35 pm
by John Mc
WR1 Bro wrote:
John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:I can't open the link. PM Clark and ask his advice. If it is a "random" polisher then you'd have to be really stupid to do something wrong. Use common sense and you'll be fine.

John Mc Tiddler (Dogging Expert) Tiddler (Dogging Expert), are you wearing a skirt today?


I'm not sure mate, why? It was dark when I got dressed....

I didn't understand the cryptic txts you were sending re:YMCA etc... what was all that about?


OMG - how off topic can on get?

MHDE


OMG Indeed - PM me.. I still have no idea Stu :?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:42 pm
by WR1 Bro
PM sent

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:51 pm
by John Mc
PM Received :toofunny: :tumble: :tosser:

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:06 pm
by WR1 Bro
MOFHOMO

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:58 pm
by MaverickUK82
any chance of getting back on topic?

I am aware that it's a sander for wood etc, but what's the difference? It's random orbital, accepts the pads and has a speed dial thing...

I'm keen on this one as all my other tools are Makita and would like to keep with them...

Do the other polishers do something else as well?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:17 pm
by M9JOC
My first ever shot on a rotary was a Kestral Sim180 with maguires Hard buff pad and i just went for my Cayman bonnet, never had a problem.

I did my whole car got rid of all swirl marks with no danger. My only advantage maybe that i polish marble and granite at my work which may have given me a basis for technique.

I need to get a smaller backing plate and smaller 4" pads but dont know where to get them from!!!

J

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:06 pm
by Clark
The difference between that makita and the likes of the meguiars and kestral dual actions that most enthusiasts use is the size of the "throw". If it has too short a throw then it could still produce a significant amount of heat which obviously isn't ideal.

I'd suggest taking a look at the FAQ section on the polished bliss website and have a look on detailing world/ detailing paradise for any more info. Also ditch the idea of using autoglym with the machine as there's far better products available.

Feel free to ask away if you have anymore questions :-)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:10 pm
by Clark
M9JOC wrote:My first ever shot on a rotary was a Kestral Sim180 with maguires Hard buff pad and i just went for my Cayman bonnet, never had a problem.

I did my whole car got rid of all swirl marks with no danger. My only advantage maybe that i polish marble and granite at my work which may have given me a basis for technique.

I need to get a smaller backing plate and smaller 4" pads but dont know where to get them from!!!

J


you'll have most likely got rid of the swirls as you'll have taken too much paint off mate lol, a soft polishing pad would have done it - especially on a cayman which tends to have soft and sticky paint, much like the impreza...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:12 pm
by M9JOC
Clark wrote:
Feel free to ask away if you have anymore questions :-)



Do you do a backing plate and smaller pads for my polisher.
Think currently its a 5" backing plate.

also i hate the spray up the car. is there anyway to avoid this???!!

Cheers J

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:16 pm
by M9JOC
Clark wrote:
M9JOC wrote:My first ever shot on a rotary was a Kestral Sim180 with maguires Hard buff pad and i just went for my Cayman bonnet, never had a problem.

I did my whole car got rid of all swirl marks with no danger. My only advantage maybe that i polish marble and granite at my work which may have given me a basis for technique.

I need to get a smaller backing plate and smaller 4" pads but dont know where to get them from!!!

J


you'll have most likely got rid of the swirls as you'll have taken too much paint off mate lol, a soft polishing pad would have done it - especially on a cayman which tends to have soft and sticky paint, much like the impreza...



Lol, probably. it was shiny tho!!! :D

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:16 pm
by MaverickUK82
Clark - if I ditch the orbital idea completley, am I going to get anywhere with Autoglyms Paint Renovator followed by Super Resin Polish and just using elbow grease?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:36 am
by John Mc
Mav, don't mention Autoglym-anything to Clark, he's not exactly a fan of the brand... :lol:

Have to agree with him though, there are much better products out there.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:37 am
by WR1 Bro
I like Menzerna.