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2004 Impreza STi WR1 'R9SY B' - no.82 - ChrisB

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:32 pm
by Chris B
Our WR1,bought new in 2004 No82,our 3rd and last scooby,after only 5000 miles the modding bug bit big time.
Full forged engine build by RCM
AP brakes all round
Carbon propshaft
EX-TC suspension
STI lateral and trailing links
Whitline roll bars
487BHP 432LBS FT
Just waiting for the twisted turbo kit.

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Rosy my ace detailer looks after the WR1,your comments would be welcome Clark.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:46 pm
by danr55
Great pics, Chris. I see you have tinfoil on your IC pipe also, interesting. Good figures too

:thumb:

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:16 pm
by ScoobyDan
I love that car 8)
Still THE BEST WR1 8)

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:01 pm
by Micktype WR1
Fabulous Chris & Rosy..........just fabulous ! 8)

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:49 pm
by Houdini
The first. The best. And the Everest for us all.

Fantastic pics, Chris & Rosy 8)

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:56 am
by danr55
Is your DV a Forge recirc Chris? I need to try one of these and get rid of the VTA I think..

Also, seriously, why are you STILL waiting for the twisted kit?

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:36 am
by Chris B
Chris has had to go - :roll: so you've got the "ace detailer" :roll: Yes the DV is a recirc. Your second question is not so easy to answer. Suffice to say that it might not be done this year because we don't want to miss any of the shows and events by taking the car off the road.

Rosy B

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:09 am
by Mac-1
Hi Chris, Rosy

:bow: I never get tired of seeing your 1 8)

:?: instead of the “Gob Stopperâ€

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:41 am
by Gee Wr1
:bow: Rosy B the original & best modded Wr1 there is, set the benchmark so high & so early nobody has come near it to this day :notwor:

I think we all look a it & wish our own was the same :notwor:

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:51 pm
by Scutch
Absolutely stunning Chris! All you need now is that de-tango sensation :wink:

Awesome car mate, and a lot of work has gone into it.

How does it feel compared to standard? Acceleration, everyday driving etc?

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:22 pm
by presa900
The '1' to beat, stunning as always Chris & Rosy 8) 8)

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:53 pm
by Chris B
Driving the car is great,being 58yrs old I d'ont drive to quick but the car is very fast we had it off the clock at Bruntingthorpe 3yrs ago when Gangsta nearly sprayed his pants,we have done all the suspension this last year so the handling is very good but as Rosy and me are show junkies as opposed to track animals the car never gets used as maybe it should ,but there you go each to his own,we had the bushes in the wishbones changed to rose-jointed ones recently and that has really sharpened the steering up and we have STI track-rods and ball-joints to be fitted soon to complete the underneath.
But it is a smile-a-mile when we are out in the WR1.

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Getting respect at Castle Combe last year.

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Twisted Turbo,the only thing missing.

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The Ist WR1 rolling road,we got 306bhp,very sad.

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 3:58 pm
by STEVIE SCOOBY DEE
It's all been said but it is

simply stunning,awesome & breathtaking.

8) :thumb: :bow:

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:30 pm
by WR 1mposter
Chris & Rosy you do realise you have a lot of blame on your shoulders
for getting people of WR1OC into a a bottomless empty no money in my pockets syndrome :lol: :lol: :lol:

You have set a level now keep going :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:52 am
by Chris B
Having spent my pension on the WR1,its you guys that will have to keep me and Rosy in our old age,roll on my twisted turbo.
And for you younger lads remember the WR1 motto...............
.........THOU SHALT ALWAYS OVERTAKE........

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:57 am
by Clark
stunning car mate - what a weapon! :D

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:39 pm
by Chris B
Just recently treated the WR1 to the Jeffs Werkstat treatment,very impressed,the finish gives great reflections,I think Clark will be using this so maybe he will put up some pics.

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:53 am
by POESY
Ah, my megane'll pi$$ it :lol: :lol:

Fantastic car + top folks chris and rosy :thumb:

Rob still recounts that tail to this day chris :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:21 am
by dynamix
Great car - a very nice spec. I can understand why you feel the need to go that little bit further now as 500 is too close to ignore it :D

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:28 am
by Megaman
amazing car - im amazed how much power you are squeezing from a 2L engine. Do you have reliability issues or on the whole does it start first time etc.

For some reason people always say if you heavily modify your cars they can become very unreliable for some reason... guess it depends who does the modding?

still - very very nice motor.. want to swap? :D

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:45 am
by marky mark
Megaman wrote:amazing car - im amazed how much power you are squeezing from a 2L engine. Do you have reliability issues or on the whole does it start first time etc.

For some reason people always say if you heavily modify your cars they can become very unreliable for some reason... guess it depends who does the modding?

still - very very nice motor.. want to swap? :D


It depends on the quality of the parts used and who does the work and mapping. Chris is using a Motec M800 pro ECU mapped by a very good mapper and the whole thing supplied and built by RCM - quality parts by quality builders..but at a cost.

Chris's ECU alone costs more than what you are wanting/expecting to spend to to achieve 370 BHP... :lol: , but it has far better control than an ECUTEK'd o.e ECU.

Of course, the more power you squeeze out....the potential is there for unreliability with everything else staying the same. The trick is in uprating whatever components are required. Be it internals, ECU's, intercoolers etc..

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:59 am
by Megaman
marky mark wrote:
It depends on the quality of the parts used and who does the work and mapping. Chris is using a Motec M800 pro ECU mapped by a very good mapper and the whole thing supplied and built by RCM - quality parts by quality builders..but at a cost.


Motec - cool stuff there, I run an online racing league running a PC game called GTR2 and that links into Motec. Being the most detailed racing simulation on the PC it logs everything to motec so you can tune your car perfectly based on laps on the track. Very impressive bit of kit. Also one of my league members is the world Radical Champion - Toby Newton who uses Motec to setup his cars on the track. The car modules alone are a few 1000 notes so yer i can see the price being high for that.

marky mark wrote:
Chris's ECU alone costs more than what you are wanting/expecting to spend to to achieve 370 BHP... :lol: , but it has far better control than an ECUTEK'd o.e ECU.


Well if he is running motec kit then the whole car will be tuned to the very best it can. I bet that car would be a monster on the track too as he has all the logging info there to show what needs tweaking to make the car better.

marky mark wrote:
Of course, the more power you squeeze out....the potential is there for unreliability with everything else staying the same. The trick is in uprating whatever components are required. Be it internals, ECU's, intercoolers etc..


Yer, i notice he is running lightened flywheel and carbon drive shafts. The flywheel i take it is to keep the revs up and make it much more responsive. I wonder if he has updated the driveshaft to save weight or to uprate it to something a lot stronger.

I think Chris should bring his pride n joy to the meal this Sunday so I can take a look ;)

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:05 pm
by WR1 Bro
Not only is it a fantastic car, Chris and Rosy are the sweetest people you can meet and are always willing to dicuss detail with you.

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Consider getting yourself to the Brunters event. Either to take people out in your car or to hand over your hard earned to go in other cars. Fantastic day out... A must for the WR1oc member.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:13 pm
by POESY
A lot of 2L cars run way over 500bhp these days - whether theyre reliable or not is a good question. I think there does become a point where its just too much.

Forget the engine and consider the drivetrain - diffs, gearboxes, driveshafts, clutches - aerodynamics, rigidity of the shell and even the grade of metal the car is made from.

A friend of mine has a 645bhp evo 6 TME and i swear one day the car is just simply going to pull itself apart :shock: :lol:

Motec is good, but it too, like anything, can - and mine did - go wrong!!

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:25 pm
by marky mark
POESY wrote: and even the grade of metal the car is made from.


Interesting! i had not considered this. Please expand?

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:40 pm
by POESY
marky mark wrote:
POESY wrote: and even the grade of metal the car is made from.


Interesting! i had not considered this. Please expand?


Its to do with initial strength, designed loadings and future fatigue - we have to consider it in buildings, probably less of a worry with a car ill grant you. But that thing of his, fcuk me how does it stay together :lol:

However, change the designed loadings and you change the fatigue characteristics.

Its all down to cost - the grade and thickness of steel part determines cost for any steel manufacturer and sure they overdesign, but only to a point otherwise it becomes economically unviable.

Remember also, like everything, metal technology moves on year on year. Sure its very boring and is partly responsible for the way I am :oops:

However, at the end of the day most things are built to a design criteria which more often than not these days is not set by engineers but accountants who have control over the budget.

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:54 pm
by WR1 Bro
POESY wrote:Its to do with initial strength, designed loadings and future fatigue - we have to consider it in buildings, probably less of a worry with a car ill grant you. But that thing of his, fcuk me how does it stay together :lol:

However, change the designed loadings and you change the fatigue characteristics.

Its all down to cost - the grade and thickness of steel part determines cost for any steel manufacturer and sure they overdesign, but only to a point otherwise it becomes economically unviable.

Remember also, like everything, metal technology moves on year on year. Sure its very boring and is partly responsible for the way I am :oops:

However, at the end of the day most things are built to a design criteria which more often than not these days is not set by engineers but accountants who have control over the budget.


OMG- the most boring post ever award goes to Pudsey!

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:07 pm
by Megaman
:D So what he is saying is that his mates car when getting hammered around at 150mph is going to implode or panels will start dropping off it.

Didnt Jeremy Clarkson test this theory out with an Evo ? Im sure he said it started undressing itself when going past its default limited speed on a german autobahn. He said something like the limiters on cars around 150mph these days are because the cars shell simply cant take higher speeds for long periods of time ..

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:10 pm
by POESY
WR1 Bro wrote:
OMG- the most boring post ever award goes to Pudsey!


Shut it tw@t - who asked you !!

I is discussing with my chums - now back to telling us how to polish :zzz: :wink:

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:15 pm
by WR1 Bro
Megaman wrote::D So what he is saying is that his mates car when getting hammered around at 150mph is going to implode or panels will start dropping off it.

Didnt Jeremy Clarkson test this theory out with an Evo ? Im sure he said it started undressing itself when going past its default limited speed on a german autobahn. He said something like the limiters on cars around 150mph these days are because the cars shell simply cant take higher speeds for long periods of time ..


Yes... they also decided an EVO was a great towing car for boring old Southerns to travel North and fill their hooters with our clean air. :wank: