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Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:01 pm**

Well after much dilema the 400 is staying and is going to receive the Power Upgrade.

Stage 1 is a set of fast road cams + remap

followed by

Stage 2 which is a turbo + intercooler upgrade + remap.

The parts are to be supplied by Performance Parts Online.

The work carried out by Owen Developments.

The warranty situation to be negotiated with Mitsubishi

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:18 pm**

POESY wrote:Well after much dilema the 400 is staying and is going to receive the Power Upgrade.

Stage 1 is a set of fast road cams + remap

followed by

Stage 2 which is a turbo + intercooler upgrade + remap.

The parts are to be supplied by Performance Parts Online.

The work carried out by Owen Developments.

The warranty situation to be negotiated with Mitsubishi

MORE power needed ? :rofl:

sounds interesting. what sort of cost and end result do you expect from this?

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:27 pm**

Stage 1 should see around 450bhp/390lbft.

Stage 2 should then take it over the magic 500bhp level, with around 440lbft.

Theres likely to be a 6 - 8 month gap between each stage being supplied/fitted to allow my bank account time to cope :shock:

The parts for stage 1 should arrive this month and the car will then hopefully be at Owens mid jan for fitment.

Prices not yet finalised, but stage 1 looks like being significantly cheaper than stage 2 (which may well have to wait until bonus time next summer).

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:48 pm**

sounds good, keep us posted on progress

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:55 pm**

Yeah, likely to be slow as an RS rear diff will probably have to go in between stages 1 and 2 and perhaps some uprated rear brakes - alcon now do a 4-pot kit for the rear, pricey though :shock:

Also looking into ways of strengthening the gearbox.

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:55 pm**

POESY wrote:Yeah, likely to be slow as an RS rear diff will probably have to go in, between stages 1 and 2 and perhaps some uprated rear brakes - alcon now do a 4-pot kit for the rear, pricey though

Also looking into ways of strengthening the gearbox.

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:01 pm**

all sounds good. i'm presuming that in this case the evo is staying around for some time, and porsche ideas are totally on hold?
are the alcons you have 6 pots on the front ?

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:06 pm**

The evo is 2 years old in jan, and the plan now is to keep it for another couple of years, after all it not even done 14k miles yet !!! The porka would just take up too much money and leave very extra spending cash. Try again in a couple of years :wink:

So, instead, going to throw around

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:08 pm**

Yes, the fronts are 6 pots - superb brakes the alcons, thoroughly recommend them.

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:13 pm**

[quote="POESY"]The evo is 2 years old in jan, and the plan now is to keep it for another couple of years, after all it not even done 14k miles yet !!! The porka would just take up too much money and leave very extra spending cash. Try again in a couple of years :wink:

So, instead, going to throw around

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:13 pm**

gonna be a few 500bhp monsters on the WR1OC

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:14 pm**

POESY wrote:Yes, the fronts are 6 pots - superb brakes the alcons, thoroughly recommend them.

i want some better brakes the performance friction ones arent quite as good as i thought originally, starting to get fade occasionally on (very) fast road use

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:17 pm**

danr55 wrote:
POESY wrote:Yes, the fronts are 6 pots - superb brakes the alcons, thoroughly recommend them.

i want some better brakes the performance friction ones arent quite as good as i thought originally, starting to get fade occasionally on (very) fast road use

Drove bros' with F and Rear AP's, marked improvement but big

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:18 pm**

Huss at Performance Parts Online is an alcon dealer - he'll do you the best price by a margin.

The brakes are the best part of my car by far - can brake sooooooooooo late from HUGE mph, never fadded once, whether on road or track.

I dont rate the standard brembo callipers on the evos at all - my 6 was terrible at stopping, and its a lighter car than yours, with less bhp.

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:21 pm**

POESY wrote:Huss at Performance Parts Online is an alcon dealer - he'll do you the best price by a margin.

The brakes are the best part of my car by far - can brake sooooooooooo late from HUGE mph, never fadded once, whether on road or track.

I dont rate the standard brembo callipers on the evos at all - my 6 was terrible at stopping, and its a lighter car than yours, with less bhp.

i noticed your brakes were much better at brunters. should have just gone for AP's in the first place :roll:

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:21 pm**

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
danr55 wrote:
POESY wrote:Yes, the fronts are 6 pots - superb brakes the alcons, thoroughly recommend them.

i want some better brakes the performance friction ones arent quite as good as i thought originally, starting to get fade occasionally on (very) fast road use

Drove bros' with F and Rear AP's, marked improvement but big

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:28 pm**

danr55 wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
danr55 wrote:
POESY wrote:Yes, the fronts are 6 pots - superb brakes the alcons, thoroughly recommend them.

i want some better brakes the performance friction ones arent quite as good as i thought originally, starting to get fade occasionally on (very) fast road use

Drove bros' with F and Rear AP's, marked improvement but big

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:26 pm**

Poesy, will the upgrades make the 400 more driveable, spreading the power and torque across more of the rev range?

Posted: **Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:44 pm**

chris wrote:Poesy, will the upgrades make the 400 more driveable, spreading the power and torque across more of the rev range?

He doesnt know!! he'll never use it :toofunny:

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:44 am**

The powerband will be a bit widder, it'll rev higher, but the turbo spool up will still be more or less the same, coming on full boost at around the same rpm.

TBH the 400 isnt as undriveable as people make out. Once you get used to it its just the car's characteristics. Put it this way all the moans and groans about it tend to be people who havent even tried the car. My mum has, and she can drive it just fine :wink:

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:56 am**

I have to say i've not tried one myself.

Maybe one day. :lol:

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:41 pm**

POESY wrote:The powerband will be a bit widder, it'll rev higher, but the turbo spool up will still be more or less the same, coming on full boost at around the same rpm.

TBH the 400 isnt as undriveable as people make out. Once you get used to it its just the car's characteristics. Put it this way all the moans and groans about it tend to be people who havent even tried the car. My mum has, and she can drive it just fine

I had a test drive in one and the only wierd thing was the clutch, but i'm sure i could get used to it, also the serious lag, but then, who drives a 400 to drive under 4rpm all the time ? :lol:

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:18 pm**

One of the inevitable drawbacks of fitting larger turbos is the extra lagg. But obviously overall out and out power is limited by turbo size, so in the quest for more and more bhp then bigger is better

The aim is to have the ALS fully functional too. So when its time to "gun it" this can be switched on and hopefully the car will be more responsive. We'll see.

Posted: **Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:30 am**

will be interesting to see the results

Posted: **Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:40 pm**

Hows things Neil?

Decided on what you're doing with the car?

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:16 am**

Its going in to Owens Developments next month.

The AVR boost controller has arrived and the plan is to run 2 settings. Low and high boost basically. Low boost will be more-or-less out of the box setting, slightly lower infact, around 1.5 bar continuous (equates to about 350bhp on an evo) and I guess this will be the most used everyday setting. High boost will be much more aggressive, peaking at 1.9 bar and holding 1.75. The switch to high boost will also tell the ecu to activate the ALS system. No idea what the power and torque figure will be in the configuration at the present moment. Watch this space.

They want the car for 2 days and hopefully the first outing to try it all out will be snetterton at the end of march.

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:29 am**

sounds good mate, keep us posted with results :wink:

Posted: **Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:13 pm**

POESY wrote:Its going in to Owens Developments next month.

The AVR boost controller has arrived and the plan is to run 2 settings. Low and high boost basically. Low boost will be more-or-less out of the box setting, slightly lower infact, around 1.5 bar continuous (equates to about 350bhp on an evo) and I guess this will be the most used everyday setting. High boost will be much more aggressive, peaking at 1.9 bar and holding 1.75. The switch to high boost will also tell the ecu to activate the ALS system. No idea what the power and torque figure will be in the configuration at the present moment. Watch this space.

They want the car for 2 days and hopefully the first outing to try it all out will be snetterton at the end of march.

Posted: **Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:13 pm**

Well the work has been done and it looks like the car will be ready for collection tomorrow

Having the final rolling road figure done when I get there in the morning, so fingers crossed.

Posted: **Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:35 pm**

POESY wrote:Well the work has been done and it looks like the car will be ready for collection tomorrow

Having the final rolling road figure done when I get there in the morning, so fingers crossed.

let us know how you get on, hope it's EVEN better than before

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