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BWM M5 and Audi RS6

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:19 pm
by chris
Has anyone driven either? I'm thinking about getting something a little more "interesting" and was considering going for a test drive in either the old shape M5 or an Audi RS6.

Also thinking of a Maserati 3200.

Your thoughts please.

Re: BWM M5 and Audi RS6

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:44 pm
by The Swede
chris's scooby wrote:Has anyone driven either? I'm thinking about getting something a little more "interesting" and was considering going for a test drive in either the old shape M5 or an Audi RS6.

Also thinking of a Maserati 3200.

Your thoughts please.


Depends what you're looking for. Reliability ? Practicality ? Price ? Age ? Mileage ?

Driven the RS6 and it's sure an awesome machine. But no faster than a WR1.

Ever considered Sportquattro ?

Was it not you who had a bet with his girlfriend about keeping the Forester ? :suss:

Re: BWM M5 and Audi RS6

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:50 pm
by chris
Torrekens wrote:
chris's scooby wrote:Has anyone driven either? I'm thinking about getting something a little more "interesting" and was considering going for a test drive in either the old shape M5 or an Audi RS6.

Also thinking of a Maserati 3200.

Your thoughts please.


Depends what you're looking for. Reliability ? Practicality ? Price ? Age ? Mileage ?

Driven the RS6 and it's sure an awesome machine. But no faster than a WR1.

Ever considered Sportquattro ?

Was it not you who had a bet with his girlfriend about keeping the Forester ? :suss:


I still have a bet, with a female friend but not the girlfriend.

I was thinking Lisa can still keep the Forester and i could have something a little more "fun"

Which model Sport Quattro were you thinking about? We drove the A4 before getting the Forester and really didn't like the ride and handling. Everytime i hit a bump the car gave no feel of what it was doing.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:27 am
by The Swede
Dear Chris,

:nono:

A3's, A4's, A6's, Audi Coupes Mk II, etc are all GIRL'S CARS ! As are all the cars based on them.

There has only ever been one car called the Audi Sportquattro ! :mad:

Gives 'only' 306bhp standard from a 2.1 5-cil 20V but weighs 1000kg :D

And for exclusivity, I think you cannot get much better.

Check these otherwise.

http://www.fast-autos.net/audi/audisportquattro.html

http://www.carclassic.com/stock.asp?StockID=102150

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:05 pm
by chris
I know the one, thanks for the pictures. I was thinking of something a little newer. I'd always promised myself an Aston Martin Vantage if i were going for a 20+ year old car.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:elw4BMm1dFEJ:www.autosportdesigns.com/Body/images/1985_VANTAGE_FRONT.jpg

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:40 pm
by The Swede
How about a Pheaton W12 or a Merc S55 AMG ? Might sound 'big', but they're excellent value in second hand.

And you'd be surprised what you can do with these cars. They're as fast and nible as their smaller siblings, just got more space, toys and are more comfortable. No small Beemer or Merc I've driven so far gave me more pleasure than the bigger models because it was smaller.

You should just give them a try once.

The S55 is without doubt the better car (better suspension, fantastic engine,...) but the Pheaton really feels special, probably because it's so exclusive. And I just like to drive it, even if it's not perfect.

If I can sell my Merc before the winter, I might buy either of them next spring.
Depends a bit on my wife's mood for a new scoob or not. If she refuses totally to drive another STi, I might buy a Pheaton V8 for her or just let her drive my S320 and get a nice scoob (WR1 maybe) or Evo 9 FQ340 for myself.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:21 am
by POESY
Both superb machines, but the RS6 just gets it for me.

450bhp & 415lb/ft.

However, if you want a bit more there's always the RS6 Avant Plus with an extra 30bhp, 0-125 in 12.7secs and 175mph top whack !!!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:11 am
by Brian
RS6.
Clive tunes these to over 500 BHP, with ease, if i could afford one..............

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:15 am
by The Swede
POESY wrote:Both superb machines, but the RS6 just gets it for me.

450bhp & 415lb/ft.

However, if you want a bit more there's always the RS6 Avant Plus with an extra 30bhp, 0-125 in 12.7secs and 175mph top whack !!!


True !

The only thing worrying me is that both already now start to look like second hand cars.

And that's exactly what I don't like about BMW M3's, Audi S4's, etc. They are very popular with the dodgy London suburb lot. They drool all over them when they're new and once they're on the second hand market, they're all over them.
So if you don't have the latest model, it straight away looks like you wanted a performance car on the cheap.

Second worry I got is that many of those cars are being bought by people who can afford the (second hand) price, but not the expensive maintenance. Plus, generally moving up from a Vectra V6, they don't understand the importance of good maintenance on performance cars.

It's a bit comparable to what we see with older Impreza's. There are quite a few entusiasts, but there are unfortunately also a lot of boy racers who can afford buying them but then cannot afford the running costs. They do no good for the image of the older Impreza's

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:08 am
by POESY
Your absolutely right fella.

Although it is a

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:27 am
by jaycee
Chris, you tit, why did you sell a perfectly good WR1 then? :confused:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:25 pm
by chris
jaycee wrote:Chris, you tit, why did you sell a perfectly good WR1 then? :confused:


It stood out too much.

Oh and it wasn't getting used which may well stop me from buying a second car again! :oops:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:27 pm
by jaycee
Get a Mondeo then :wank:

:mrgreen:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:34 pm
by The Swede
chris's scooby wrote:It stood out too much.


:shock:

:confused:

And I have been trying to talk Subaru Finance in letting me swap for a WR1 exactly because it looks much less flash than a Blue STi with gold wheels and blue seats !

:shake:

PS: Don't tell my wife it stands out, Chris. Something like the WR1 is my only hope of getting a scoob again ;)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:44 pm
by chris
Torrekens wrote:
chris's scooby wrote:It stood out too much.


:shock:

:confused:

And I have been trying to talk Subaru Finance in letting me swap for a WR1 exactly because it looks much less flash than a Blue STi with gold wheels and blue seats !

:shake:

PS: Don't tell my wife it stands out, Chris. Something like the WR1 is my only hope of getting a scoob again ;)


OK. It doesn't really stand out at all. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:47 pm
by The Swede
:lol2: :lol2:

:cuckoo:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:08 pm
by chris
I've definately gone off the idea of a Maserati 3200. I've seen the service and repair costs. :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:18 am
by The Swede
Ever considered a second hand Brabus ?

They're pretty bullet proof.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:47 am
by chris
Torrekens wrote:Ever considered a second hand Brabus ?

They're pretty bullet proof.


No, i'd not really ever thought about one of those. I'll have to find out something about them.

I do like the look of the Audi A8. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:21 pm
by The Swede
chris's scooby wrote:
Torrekens wrote:Ever considered a second hand Brabus ?

They're pretty bullet proof.


No, i'd not really ever thought about one of those. I'll have to find out something about them.

I do like the look of the Audi A8. 8)


The Brabus cars are not only powerfull, the engine build etc is done VERY VERY carefully.

I am driving a Pheaton V8 at the moment. Has got engine from the Audi A8. Nice engine !

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:31 pm
by chris
I was thinking about the diesel V8, i'm not too sure if it's a 4.0 or a 4.2.

It'll do 0-60 in around 6 seconds and return 30 mpg. And 479 lb ft of torque.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:55 pm
by The Swede
chris's scooby wrote:I was thinking about the diesel V8, i'm not too sure if it's a 4.0 or a 4.2.

It'll do 0-60 in around 6 seconds and return 30 mpg. And 479 lb ft of torque.


The new 4.2 will give about those performances (not the old 4.0).

I'm still no fan of modern diesels (too much problems and very expensive to sort out when it goes wrong) plus, when you fire up a petrol V8, you just know you don't want a diesel for any money in the world. Personal preference I must admit.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:16 pm
by chris
Torrekens wrote:
chris's scooby wrote:I was thinking about the diesel V8, i'm not too sure if it's a 4.0 or a 4.2.

It'll do 0-60 in around 6 seconds and return 30 mpg. And 479 lb ft of torque.


The new 4.2 will give about those performances (not the old 4.0).

I'm still no fan of modern diesels (too much problems and very expensive to sort out when it goes wrong) plus, when you fire up a petrol V8, you just know you don't want a diesel for any money in the world. Personal preference I must admit.


I've seen your thoughts on diesels before so i won't ask you to repeat them. I'm not sure i'd own a car that wasn't covered by a warranty these days as the cost to fix anything seems to be

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:23 am
by The Swede
You WR1 will sure have been faster than the new S8 which isn't gonna be any faster than the W12. The V10 will probably have a more sporty charachter though. Still, the extra power on such cars generally is only practical on the unrestricted Autobahns. On our roads, it's hard to exploit the difference between a normal 4.2 and a V10.

Try the normal A8 V8 maybe and spend what you save on getting one with all the toys ;)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:12 pm
by chris
They do have large option lists... :?