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Postby WR1 Bro » Wed May 27, 2009 7:55 am

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Postby presa900 » Thu May 28, 2009 11:15 am

The M5 against the Scoob wasn't in launch control as bigman says holding at 4500rpm and I can tell you it is a fecking awesome launch.

As for those things called 'corners' I thought the M5 handled them far better than I thought it would, in its top suspension setting it stiffens up a hell of a lot, so much so, I think the ride is even as harsh as the scoobs was if not more so.

The thing it lacks the most is a good sound track, they really failed to let the 5.0litre V10 sing when the M button is pressed.

Having riden in Dans new CSL with the sport button pressed it shows this up even more, the induction raw from that car is unbelievable 8) 8) 8)
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 11:24 am

I agree, they could have allowed a little more of the V10 to be heard presa 8) Delighted to hear your enjoying the car though, as I'm having a tough job telling the lads here just how good it really is.
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Postby John Mc » Thu May 28, 2009 12:06 pm

bbigman2000 wrote:I agree, they could have allowed a little more of the V10 to be heard presa 8) Delighted to hear your enjoying the car though, as I'm having a tough job telling the lads here just how good it really is.


I don't think you are having a tough job telling us how good it is, we know how good it is....BUT it's only "brilliant" in a straight line with all it's power but if you have the same power in a scoob or evo, it'll be just as good but will also go round the twistys better too.

The big plus for the M5 is that you can do all this in comfort watching Sky TV in your armchair.
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Postby John Mc » Thu May 28, 2009 12:08 pm

presa900 wrote:The M5 against the Scoob wasn't in launch control as bigman says holding at 4500rpm and I can tell you it is a fecking awesome launch.

As for those things called 'corners' I thought the M5 handled them far better than I thought it would, in its top suspension setting it stiffens up a hell of a lot, so much so, I think the ride is even as harsh as the scoobs was if not more so.

The thing it lacks the most is a good sound track, they really failed to let the 5.0litre V10 sing when the M button is pressed.

Having riden in Dans new CSL with the sport button pressed it shows this up even more, the induction raw from that car is unbelievable 8) 8) 8)


Met up with Dan on the day he got the CSL, absolutely love the sound of the engine, he launched it a couple of times from the lights, agreed that I'd have this over the M5's V10 anyday for sound.
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 12:25 pm

PMSL, John you'd be stunned at how the M5 actually deals with the twisties.
The difference between a well driven M5 and a 400bhp evo through the bends is negligible.

The CSL's are good, I did own one :wink: I drove the absolutle arse out of it, again though you the M5 IS better 8)
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Postby WR1 Bro » Thu May 28, 2009 12:27 pm

How does the M5 compare to the FQ400?
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Postby John Mc » Thu May 28, 2009 12:31 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:How does the M5 compare to the FQ400?


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Postby The Swede » Thu May 28, 2009 12:33 pm

The bloke in the Evo clearly couldn't drive it properly :lol:

I think we all remember this one. Of course, a Murcielago is not as good as an M5 and the BTCC driver behind the wheel is not as good as Clarkson, but still...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y6lIaGZA4w
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 1:41 pm

Oh yes, I recall that one :lol: It beat the M5 around that track by 1.8 seconds!
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Postby p060064h » Thu May 28, 2009 6:40 pm

Now the M5 aint on this list but it cant be faster than the M3 CSL ?
I think this kinda puts a lid on this debate.

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Ascari KZ1 1.20.7
Mercedes McLaren SLR 1.20.9
Ferrari 599GTB 1.21.2
Ford GT 1.21.9
Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3
Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3
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Noble M15 1.22.5
Murcielago 1.23.7
Zonda 1.23.8
Koenigsegg 1.23.9
Aston Martin DBS 1.23.93
Veritas RS III 1.24.2
Prodrive P2 1.24.3
Audi R8 1.24.4
TVR Sagaris 1.24.6
Mitsubishi Evo FQ400 1.24.8
TVR Tuscan 1.24.8
Noble M400 1.25.0
Lotus Exige S 1.25.1
BMW M3 Saloon 1.25.3
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1.25.7
Lamborghini Gallardo 1.25.8
BMW Z4 M 1.26.0
Porsche Cayman 1.26.2
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Lotus Exige 1.26.4
Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8
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Roush Mustang 1.28.0
Marcos TSO GT2 1.28.2
Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2
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Dodge Viper SRT-10 1.28.5
MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9
BMW Alpina Z8 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 1.29.0
VW Golf W12 1.29.6
Alfa 3.7 GTA Autodelta 1.30.0
Ford Shelby GT500 1.30.0
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BMW 130 1.31.9
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Mazda 6 MPS 1.32.2
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Audi TT V6 1.32.7
MG ZT 1.33.0
Noble M12 GTO 1.33.1
Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1.33.2
Volkswagen Golf R32 1.33.2
Cadillac CTS 1.33.3
Honda Civic Type-R 1.33.5
Holden Monaro 1.33.9
Ford Mondeo ST220 1.34.5
Jaguar XKR 1.34.7
Ford Focus ST 1.34.9
Volvo S60R 1.35.0
Ferrari 575M 1.35.2
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Honda Civic Type R 1.36.5
Alfa Romeo Brera 1.36.9
Saab 95 Aero 1.37.9
Maserati 3200 GT 1.38.0
Alfa Romeo 8C 1.38.2
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Overfinch Range Rover 1.44.0
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 6:44 pm

Yep M5 did it in 1.26.2 No sure why its not on the list.

And I think I would know whats quicker, I have owned both and carried out extensive trials of my own 8)
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Postby p060064h » Thu May 28, 2009 6:45 pm

So you can get more from the M5 than the stig :?:
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 6:46 pm

Wouldnt be hard, he didnt even use launch control!!
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 6:51 pm

Heres the Vid, and as you will see, No launch control which could have shaved a fairly substantial .3 or .4 of a second off the lap time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhqIJcT4FFU
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Postby p060064h » Thu May 28, 2009 6:53 pm

If i hadnt seen a pic of ya i would think you were him.
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Postby p060064h » Thu May 28, 2009 6:54 pm

That still wouldnt put it near the 400bhp evo.
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 6:55 pm

:lol: :lol: I was bigger than the stig when I was 5 mate :lol:
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu May 28, 2009 6:57 pm

p060064h wrote:That still wouldnt put it near the 400bhp evo.


No it wouldnt, however all I can say to that is that 400/450bhp evo;s cannot make any head way against the M5 on my local testracks.

An evo running 400/450bhp is similar in performance, all it takes is one straight away though and they are finished.
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Postby p060064h » Thu May 28, 2009 7:24 pm

Well as its been said they you cant argue with 507bhp in a straight line.
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Postby presa900 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:45 am

Forget the EVO rice rocket, look what else it did it quicker than on that list, for a 5 door 1800kg+ car it is pretty special if you ask me.

Just a few.....

911 Carrera 2S
Lotus Exige!
Aston Martin Vanquish S
Aston DB9
Porsche 911 GT3
BMW M3 CSL

and over 3 seconds quicker than the WR1, although the stig did drive like a muppet in it as there's no way its slower than a standard STi!

I think it's time to leave this FQ400-M5 debat alone once and for all its getting very boring!
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Postby bbigman2000 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:33 pm

I'm willing to leave it there presa!

I think thats quite some kill list 8)
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