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Postby bbigman2000 » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:56 pm

:lol: :lol: Not sure, I saw one on there of an M6 though using gps, done by the M5board.com guys, slightly tuned though I think 206mph ish

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Postby The Swede » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:34 pm

As you said, slightly tuned.

I have an Evo and I have seen Evo's that do 0-60 in less than 3 secs and have 1000 bhp...

By definition, my Evo is the fastest car...


Makes sense, doesn't it, as a reasoning.

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Postby The Swede » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:37 pm

marky mark wrote:How accurate are the speedo's on the 20 you tube videos? :lol:


BMW speedo's are very accurate.

I drove a 330 for a week in December in Germany. 245 on speedo was 220kph...


Or how BMW wants to ensure their drivers think they drive a fast car. :lol:
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:35 am

The Swede wrote:There are a few bits and pieces missing here, presa. If you do a data round, make sure you don't miss out pieces or your whole analysis, however correct it is otherwise, will have zero credibility.

In this list, you should have all the other cars that have a speed limiter and how fast they are when derestricted.

For starters, if you follow this logic, the Merc SL65 will be up there above the M5. Same goes with the RS6 Audi and few other German 'cruisers' with more than 500 bhp.

Also... I find it hard to believe that a standard M5 derestricted would go 330km/h. Given it 'only' has 500bhp and the aerodynamics are not in its favour (cx is OK but it has a much larger front surface), this just does not look realistic when I compare it with much more powerful sportscars.

A 911 GT2 for instance is half as big, has much more power and doesn't go as fast???

:?

You really are naive. :lol:


Yep I agree this list is a strange one, completely floored as you say, just wanted to drop something else in to keep people biting :mrgreen:
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Postby marky mark » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:46 am

The Swede wrote:
marky mark wrote:How accurate are the speedo's on the 20 you tube videos? :lol:


BMW speedo's are very accurate.

I drove a 330 for a week in December in Germany. 245 on speedo was 220kph...


Or how BMW wants to ensure their drivers think they drive a fast car. :lol:


So 10%, about average for speedos it seems these days.
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:52 am

The Swede wrote:
In this list, you should have all the other cars that have a speed limiter and how fast they are when derestricted.

For starters, if you follow this logic, the Merc SL65 will be up there above the M5. Same goes with the RS6 Audi and few other German 'cruisers' with more than 500 bhp.



It is also very dependant on their gearing, I would suggest that cars like the 997 GT2 are geared more for acceleration rather than top speed in a similar way to EVO's and Scoobs.

Some also have a very long top gear for fuel economy reasons.

The list is floored though because the top speed for the Z06 is out by 10mph anyway, so there are probably plenty of other inaccuracies, and as you say you can't put the M5 in fully derestricted :roll:

Incidentally can any of these cars be ordered with a higher limit, because you can order an 'M Driver's Package' which moves the limiter to 305kph on the M5 :wink:
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Postby POESY » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:22 am

And Top Gear recon that all the :wank: are out of BMs and are now driving Audis :lol:

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!!

Anyway, very, very :zzz: now. I think it has been proven clearly that the M5 is the best car you can physically buy, despite its relatively puny torque figure compaired with the force inducted mercs, audi...and even vauxhalls of this world :lol:

Would now be a bad time to mention how quickly the mighty BM goes round the 'ring compaired with my weedy new renault megane :toofunny:





















































There we go, that should keep things boiling a bit longer :wink:
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:23 am

Some more interesting stats, can't see the FQ400 in there or Renault 'does my bum look big in this' megane :wink: :lol:

If you ask me a lap time of 7 min 52s for the M5 is unbelievable for a lardy german saloon car 8)

Again these times will be dependant on who was driving at the time and its probably out of date now...


Top laptimes at the Nürburgring Nordschleife:

7:28 — 166.652 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl,(Autobild July 2004)

7:32.00 — Pagani Zonda F, Sport Auto Magazine

7:32.44 163.911 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time Horst Von Saurma (sport auto 01/2004)

7:32.52 163.882 km/h — Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann

7:36 — 162.631 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom

7:36 — 162.631 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)

7:39 — 161.575 km/h — Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Corvette Z06 Blue Devil, 600 PS/ 1419.7 kg (estimated), Jan Magnusen (AutoBild 7/2005)

7:40* — 161.217 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)

7:41 — 160.868 km/h – Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/2004)

7:42 — 160.519 km/h — Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, 2004 (according to dailysportscar.net)

7:42 — 160.519 km/h — Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (2002)

7:43 — 160.173 km/h — TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/2002)

7:43 — 160.173 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Röhrl (MOTOR Magazine)

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h — Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 2002)

7:44 — 159.828 km/h — Pagani Zonda C12 S, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 07/2002)

7:45 — 159.484 km/h — Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (2000)

7:45* — 159.484 km/h — McLaren F1 * Estimated laptime

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine)

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 1999)

7:47 — 158.801 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/2004)

7.49 — 158.124 km/h — Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004)

7:49 — 158.124 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/1999)

7:49.72 157.885 km/h — Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne 1993 (moto bike)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/2003)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schürg (1997)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h – Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine

7:52 — 157.119 km/h – BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 1995)

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)

7:54 — 156.456 km/h – Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005)

7:54 — 156.456 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/2003)

7:55 — 156.126 km/h — Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Chevrolet Corvette C6 (company test driver Dave Hill)

7:57 — 155.472 km/h — Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/1998)

7:59 — 154.822 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance‿, (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

7:59 — 154.822 km/h — Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 1997)

8:02 — 154.338 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport‿, (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

8:03 — 153.540 km/h — Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)

8:04 — 153.223 km/h — Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard‿, Walter Röhrl (WHEELS 06/2004)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/2005)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h – Ruf CTR

8:06 — 152.592 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)

8:06 — 152.592 km/h — Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn

8:07 — 152.279 km/h – Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/1997)

8:10 — 151.114 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear feb,2005)

8:10 — 151.114 km/h — Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)

8:10 — 151.347 km/h — Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/2001)

8:11 — 151,274 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (sport auto 07/2005)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/2002)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/1997)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/1997)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/2004)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/1999)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/2004)

8:14 — 150.120 km/h – Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/2005)

8:15 — 149.818 km/h – Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/2005)

8:15* — 149.818 km/h — Holden GTS (2000), *estimated

8:15 — 149.818 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera 2 (Walter Röhrl - WHEELS 06/2004)

8:15 — 149.818 km/h — Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/1997)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/2005)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/2004)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (best motoring video 14)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/2003)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Porsche 996 Carrera 2, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 02/2001)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/2000)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/1997
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Postby POESY » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:33 am

:toofunny:


Too easy !!
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:36 am

Don't you just love this thread :rofl:

Whoever started it should be very proud :lol:
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Postby POESY » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:44 am

Yup, it should have started - do BMW do a 500bhp 5 series cos my mate has a black one and he recons its the fastest car in the world ever, whereas me I recon it looks like a diesel - is it possible to tell the difference :lol:

Tell you what though, after all this fuss, i'm deffo going to nip round my mates this weekend and ask for a run in his car again, just to refresh myself with what its like 8)
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:54 am

POESY wrote:Yup, it should have started - do BMW do a 500bhp 5 series cos my mate has a black one and he recons its the fastest car in the world ever, whereas me I recon it looks like a diesel - is it possible to tell the difference :lol:

Tell you what though, after all this fuss, i'm deffo going to nip round my mates this weekend and ask for a run in his car again, just to refresh myself with what its like 8)


507bhp get it right :lol:
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Postby POESY » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:13 am

presa900 wrote:507bhp get it right :lol:


Yeah, yeah, talk up the bhp...


...cos the lbft aint all that really :lol: :wink:

Infact, is the M5 really the most powerful 5 series even, i'm sure the superduper diesels probably produce more lbft :shock:
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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:20 am

presa900 wrote:
7:36 — 162.631 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom

7:42 — 160.519 km/h — Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (2002)

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/2003)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h – Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine

7:52 — 157.119 km/h – BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg


8:06 — 152.592 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/2002)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/2004)

8:14 — 150.120 km/h – Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/2005)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/1997)



:lol:

What a reliable sample.

Some conclusions:

1. A Radical or Westfield goes faster than the mighty M5. Buy British, you twats !

2. If you want to look like a City pr@t anyway and drive a beemer, buy an M3 CSL, not a lardy M5.

3. 4 cilinders weigh 398kg ! :shock:

4. An oldy like an XJ220 goes faster than the mighty City machine.

5. Most important: Make sure you got the right driver in your car...
Suggest Mrs Presa hangs on to M5 and swaps presa then.
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:48 am

The Swede wrote:Some conclusions:

1. A Radical or Westfield goes faster than the mighty M5. Buy British, you twats ! (these are track cars?????)

2. If you want to look like a City pr@t anyway and drive a beemer, buy an M3 CSL, not a lardy M5. (CSL isn't a luxury car)

3. 4 cilinders weigh 398kg !

4. An oldy like an XJ220 goes faster than the mighty City machine. (this is a supercar????_)

5. Most important: Make sure you got the right driver in your car... (as I said in my post!!)




:blahblah: I wasn't using this information as a comparison, more to show that the M5 isn't the lardy piece of sh1t you lot recon....

At the end of the day who gives a sh1t, it won't be seeing a track it was bought as a big solid luxury car that can also be a more entertaining performance car when it wants to be, i.e. what it was built for.

No-one said its the fastest thing in the world so you lot just need to get over it :roll:
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Postby POESY » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:34 am

presa900 wrote:

No-one said its the fastest thing in the world so you lot just need to get over it :roll:


No, your right, that is true...






...you suggested it was the 19th fastest :toofunny:
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:04 am

POESY wrote:
presa900 wrote:

No-one said its the fastest thing in the world so you lot just need to get over it :roll:


No, your right, that is true...






...you suggested it was the 19th fastest :toofunny:


Not my list.....don't shoot the messenger :wink:
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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:38 am

presa900 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Some conclusions:

1. A Radical or Westfield goes faster than the mighty M5. Buy British, you twats ! (these are track cars?????)

2. If you want to look like a City pr@t anyway and drive a beemer, buy an M3 CSL, not a lardy M5. (CSL isn't a luxury car)

3. 4 cilinders weigh 398kg !

4. An oldy like an XJ220 goes faster than the mighty City machine. (this is a supercar????_)

5. Most important: Make sure you got the right driver in your car... (as I said in my post!!)




:blahblah: I wasn't using this information as a comparison, more to show that the M5 isn't the lardy piece of sh1t you lot recon....

At the end of the day who gives a sh1t, it won't be seeing a track it was bought as a big solid luxury car that can also be a more entertaining performance car when it wants to be, i.e. what it was built for.

No-one said its the fastest thing in the world so you lot just need to get over it :roll:


Why did you cut out the most important sentence of my post ?

Suggest Mrs Presa hangs on to M5 and swaps presa then.

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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:40 am

POESY wrote:Yup, it should have started - do BMW do a 500bhp 5 series cos my mate has a black one and he recons its the fastest car in the world ever, whereas me I recon it looks like a diesel - is it possible to tell the difference :lol:

Tell you what though, after all this fuss, i'm deffo going to nip round my mates this weekend and ask for a run in his car again, just to refresh myself with what its like 8)


I'm sure presa will let you take it out for a good blast, just to convince you he's right.

What time works on Sunday, presa ? I'm rather busy on Saturday, so.
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:49 am

The Swede wrote:
presa900 wrote:
The Swede wrote:Some conclusions:

1. A Radical or Westfield goes faster than the mighty M5. Buy British, you twats ! (these are track cars?????)

2. If you want to look like a City pr@t anyway and drive a beemer, buy an M3 CSL, not a lardy M5. (CSL isn't a luxury car)

3. 4 cilinders weigh 398kg !

4. An oldy like an XJ220 goes faster than the mighty City machine. (this is a supercar????_)

5. Most important: Make sure you got the right driver in your car... (as I said in my post!!)




:blahblah: I wasn't using this information as a comparison, more to show that the M5 isn't the lardy piece of sh1t you lot recon....

At the end of the day who gives a sh1t, it won't be seeing a track it was bought as a big solid luxury car that can also be a more entertaining performance car when it wants to be, i.e. what it was built for.

No-one said its the fastest thing in the world so you lot just need to get over it :roll:


Why did you cut out the most important sentence of my post ?

Suggest Mrs Presa hangs on to M5 and swaps presa then.

:mrgreen:


No need she knows when she's on to a good thing :wink:
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Postby presa900 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:51 am

The Swede wrote:
POESY wrote:Yup, it should have started - do BMW do a 500bhp 5 series cos my mate has a black one and he recons its the fastest car in the world ever, whereas me I recon it looks like a diesel - is it possible to tell the difference :lol:

Tell you what though, after all this fuss, i'm deffo going to nip round my mates this weekend and ask for a run in his car again, just to refresh myself with what its like 8)


I'm sure presa will let you take it out for a good blast, just to convince you he's right.

What time works on Sunday, presa ? I'm rather busy on Saturday, so.


Right about what :?
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:07 pm

Obviously Ive owned the might CSL, another epic car, Im quite amazed though that it beat the E60 M6 round the ring, it must be its slight edge on handling.

I noticed there was an evo on your list presa, but it was well down near the bottom :lol: Im sure the norris evo would manage a quick time, but then whats the chances of it making it round without melting a piston :lol: :lol:

Id love a spin round the ring with sabine 8) 8)
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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:25 pm

presa900 wrote:No need she knows when she's on to a good thing :wink:



FPMSL !!!


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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:31 pm

presa900 wrote:
The Swede wrote:I'm sure presa will let you take it out for a good blast, just to convince you he's right.

What time works on Sunday, presa ? I'm rather busy on Saturday, so.


Right about what :?


Stop beating around the bush and tell us where we come on Sunday and what time so we can take your M5 for a blast.

No need to upset mrs presa if you need to help her with cleaning the shoes closet or ironing the socks. Poesy and I can just pick up the car and take it for a drive by ourselves.


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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:32 pm

bbigman2000 wrote:Id love a spin round the ring with sabine 8) 8)


I'd love to go for a spin with her, but don't think the Ring would be the place of choice :wink:
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:36 pm

:lol: :lol: Well theres plenty space in the heated rear seats on the lardy M5 8) :lol: :lol:
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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:41 pm

bbigman2000 wrote::lol: :lol: Well theres plenty space in the heated rear seats on the lardy M5 8) :lol: :lol:


I'm surprised once you sit in that seat anything else could still fit in it!
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:49 pm

Funnily enough, the active M seats, you know the bolsters move holding you into the corners etc, they grip like nothing on earth, they actually exert such force the girfriend started feeling sick, and turned hers off :lol: :lol:
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Postby The Swede » Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:32 pm

bbigman2000 wrote:Funnily enough, the active M seats, you know the bolsters move holding you into the corners etc, they grip like nothing on earth, they actually exert such force the girfriend started feeling sick, and turned hers off :lol: :lol:


Yeah, had the same problem in mine.


Most funny anecdote however was driving back from a meeting with some colleagues in the car last week.

Front passenger to rear passenger: " Do you have enough space?"

Rear passenger: "Yup, no problem".

Few minutes later

Front passenger: "Sue, are you sure you got enough space ???".

Rear passenger: "Yeah, I got plenty of space !".

At which moment the guy at the front turns around and goes :confused:

Then turns to me and goes: "Are these seats moving ??!".

"Yup".

"Shoot ! I thought that Sue was pushing into my seat with her knees in ever corner !".

:lol:
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Postby bbigman2000 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:11 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: MERC have copied BMW :D

So are the massage seats any good then ?
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