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Multiple Wi-Fi Routers

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:58 am
by WR1 Bro
Mega or anyone else in the know,

How easy is it to setup two wifi routers in a house? I get poor coverage in certain areas of my house and wondered if multiple routers might be the answer?

Cheers,
Stu

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:09 am
by grahampesking
http://compnetworking.about.com/od/rout ... etwork.htm

serves u right for living in a castle :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:16 am
by WR1 Bro
Thanks, isn't that a fun read!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:21 am
by CAVEMAN
Stu - is this purely for a wireless device such as a phone? or do you take a laptop to the place to work/surf?

I use a mix of 3 WAP's all bridged and a couple of TP-Link devices that plug into my mains.

So depending on your usage, a simple bridge between 2 wi-fi routers or a mains adapter will work.

You could also upgrade your router to a wifiN jobbie in the 5GHZ band instead of the normal 2.4Ghz

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:22 am
by grahampesking
WR1 Bro wrote:Thanks, isn't that a fun read!!


DONT KNOW , COULDNT BE BOTHERED READING IT :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:33 am
by WR1 Bro
CAVEMAN wrote:Stu - is this purely for a wireless device such as a phone? or do you take a laptop to the place to work/surf?

I use a mix of 3 WAP's all bridged and a couple of TP-Link devices that plug into my mains.

So depending on your usage, a simple bridge between 2 wi-fi routers or a mains adapter will work.

You could also upgrade your router to a wifiN jobbie in the 5GHZ band instead of the normal 2.4Ghz


For daily working I'm hard wired to my router to ensure my connection doesn't drop and subsequently leave me struggling to access a remote business network. Unfortunately the router is opposite ends of the house to where myself and my wife will use our laptops with a wireless connection during the evening.

I'm scared to change the base router as vodafone had to tweak the settings to allow a SureSignal device to work via it to boost my mobile phone signal within the house. This works adequately and I don't want the headache of changing the router and struggling to get the SureSignal to connect.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:43 am
by WR1 Bro
Thought - we do have a spare phone sock in the location I would like an additional router. Does this help at all?

I would ask Mega to pop over and help me out but I hear he is "very" expensive!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:40 pm
by Megaman
Hiya,
In work environments we offer a Cloud Managed WiFi Solution that entails a mesh network of as many of our enterprise ready WiFi access points as are required to get the coverage you require. These come in different sizes depending on the number of expected wifi connections. These require a power socket and a network connection but are fully configured and managed via ourselves remotely.

For home environments the best solution depends entirely on the house as to what options you have. In order to get the strongest signal you should be looking at a Wireless N router which broadcasts its network across multiple wifi channels in order to get a better consistent range. One way to get a better quality signal is to disable your encryption on your wifi network as this consumes a lot of bandwidth and has a large overhead. So by turning WPA or WEP off you can gain quite a lot of range. The downside to this is that your network data is unencrypted. So you would then need to ensure you use alternative security measures to avoid others jumping on your wifi network and stealing your bandwidth such as MAC Address Filtering and hiding your SSID broadcasts which most routers support.

Other devices out there that help are wifi signal boosters. These do what they suggest but rely on having at least a half strength signal to the original wifi point. Otherwise what you get is laptops connecting at full signal to the wifi signal booster but then a bottleneck in traffic as it cant forward the data to the original access point. I have seen some houses with 3 or 4 of these chained in a row to give a house full coverage.

If you require wifi in two rooms at either ends of the house then you may want to look at creating a network using your houses electrical cabling infrastructure. Normally you need to plug a device into a 3 pin plug socket (not an extension). A network cable comes out of this into your broadband/wifi router.

Then at the other end of the house you plug another device into the 3 pin plug socket. Out of this you plug the network cable into either a hub/switch if you want another hard wired connection or another wifi access point.

EG http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5650307/Trail/searchtext%3ENETWORK.htm#pdpFullProductInformation

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:05 pm
by WR1 Bro
I think I may have to give you are call to discuss at some point. You talk a different language to me.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:36 am
by CAVEMAN
Stu, sounds like the easiet way is to use your house electric cabling to carry your internet connection.

Have a look at these

http://uk.tp-link.com/products/?categoryid=206

Take a feed from your router (most have a 4 port hub on the back) and plug it into one of these. Plug that into your mains and plug another one in close to where you are working in your wi fi black spot.

connect your laptop, or WAP via normal ehternet cable and hey presto.

I use these to carry my internet connection to the garage - as wifi doesn't reach, and it hasn't dropped any speed at all.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:06 am
by WR1 Bro
CAVEMAN wrote:Stu, sounds like the easiet way is to use your house electric cabling to carry your internet connection.

Have a look at these

http://uk.tp-link.com/products/?categoryid=206

Take a feed from your router (most have a 4 port hub on the back) and plug it into one of these. Plug that into your mains and plug another one in close to where you are working in your wi fi black spot.

connect your laptop, or WAP via normal ehternet cable and hey presto.

I use these to carry my internet connection to the garage - as wifi doesn't reach, and it hasn't dropped any speed at all.


I did look into these previously, but I forgot to mention, I also want to use my iPad in the black spot!!

We rented a Villa for half term and that had two routers working. Coverage was excellent.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:48 am
by CAVEMAN
Then you are looking into a bridge set up.

Buy another Wifi router, or a single WAP (Wireless Access Point)...

In the settings you can simple configure it to be a bridge/repeater.

Problem solved.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:15 am
by Megaman
Both Wifi routers need to support a bridge configuration and the signals need to overlap for obvious reasons. If router 1 cant "see" router 2 then the bridge system wont work. Not sure of the distances you are talking about but 2 wireless N routers in bridged mode should be more than enough for most houses.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:03 pm
by John Mc
Do you have an iPhone Bro (or other phone capable of creating a hotspot)?

You can use that as a personal hotspot and piggy back onto that with your other devices. Just carry your internet around with you :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:21 pm
by WR1 Bro
I have a HTC which can act as a router which I use frequently when out and about. However, for normal working this isn't really sufficient.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:11 pm
by Megaman
Could always get a second phone line + second broadband + second wifi router... genius idea... download at one end of the house then work at the other :)