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WR1 Bro wrote:
You twat Spike... 60 bhp is easily noticeable!!

WR1 Bro wrote:

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:At the end of the day 320 as opposed to 380 bhp on the road or down lanes is not goiong to be very apparent

You twat Spike... 60 bhp is easily noticeable!!

Really...and how would you know? I can tell you that a true 380 does pull away from 330 and 340 but NOT to that greater extent - please bear in mind dans comment - it was on the twisties where no body really opened the cars up as on a straight line where you get to see the higher end of the speedo - if i kept up they werent going that fast mate.

but then again with all them extra horses i have it was easy...TWAT

List of figures

1. Martin - 373bhp/350lbft down on previous rr figures at wrc by 3/15
2.Spike - 386bhp/380ft/lb down on TRL 402/386ft/lb -both worked on 24% loss rule from atw. (but I dont count as I dont have a WR1 1 finger )
3. Anders - 318/310lbft
4. Smudga - 307bhp / 320 lbft, Std JDM 2.0 litre STi..not up or down as never been on rollers before Laughing
5. Presa - 315/301lbft, no engine mods first time on rollers Smile
6. Dream - 332bhp/355lbft was 352/347lbft on DSA rollers (Subaru P1)

I checked out the fitment of my Defi gauges. It's wired in like it shows in the manual, apart from the sensor is not mounted with the air hole down like it says on page 28:

http://www.nucleusnetworks.co.uk/scooby ... Manual.pdf

I'll see if we've got a scrap of Aluminium at work to make a right-angled bracket to mount the sensor properly, although it's been like since it was installed at the 1,000 mile service!

I managed to tighten all the FMIC hose clamps today, including the ones either side of the FMIC. Still leaking from somewhere

The last place I can think is the silicon hose / dump valve adapter flange that connects the re-circ dump valve to the FMIC pipework near the throttle body. I'll buy some sealent and see if there are any dodgy joints.

Anders

List of figures

1. Martin - 373bhp/350lbft down on previous rr figures at wrc by 3/15
2.Spike - 386bhp/380ft/lb down on TRL 402/386ft/lb -both worked on 24% loss rule from atw. (but I dont count as I dont have a WR1 1 finger )
3. Anders - 318/310lbft
4. Smudga - 307bhp / 320 lbft, Std JDM 2.0 litre STi..not up or down as never been on rollers before Laughing
5. Presa - 315/301lbft, no engine mods first time on rollers Smile
6. Dream - 332bhp/355lbft was 352/347lbft on DSA rollers (Subaru P1)
7. Azyman - 330bhp/330lbft right result Citreon 2CV Slightly moded

Regs
Geoff

Where are your figures, Dan?

Scooby Lee wrote:Where are your figures, Dan?

in the car, will dig them out later and post after i get back from a lunch meeting

1. Martin - 373bhp/350lbft down on previous rr figures at wrc by 3/15
2.Spike - 386bhp/380ft/lb down on TRL 402/386ft/lb -both worked on 24% loss rule from atw. (but I dont count as I dont have a WR1 1 finger )
3. Anders - 318/310lbft
4. Smudga - 307bhp / 320 lbft, Std JDM 2.0 litre STi..not up or down as never been on rollers before Laughing
5. Presa - 315/301lbft, no engine mods first time on rollers Smile
6. Dream - 332bhp/355lbft was 352/347lbft on DSA rollers (Subaru P1)
7. Azyman - 330bhp/330lbft right result Cool Citreon 2CV Slightly moded
8. Robin - 302bhp/340lbft compared to 338bhp/330lbft (I think that is the correct conversion from 450nm) at PS

It was good to meet you all on Saturday thanks for organising it and glad you enjoyed the run over to the pub.

Look forward to coming to another meet soon.

Robin

Anders_WR1 wrote:I checked out the fitment of my Defi gauges. It's wired in like it shows in the manual, apart from the sensor is not mounted with the air hole down like it says on page 28:

http://www.nucleusnetworks.co.uk/scooby ... Manual.pdf

I'll see if we've got a scrap of Aluminium at work to make a right-angled bracket to mount the sensor properly, although it's been like since it was installed at the 1,000 mile service!

I managed to tighten all the FMIC hose clamps today, including the ones either side of the FMIC. Still leaking from somewhere

The last place I can think is the silicon hose / dump valve adapter flange that connects the re-circ dump valve to the FMIC pipework near the throttle body. I'll buy some sealent and see if there are any dodgy joints.

Anders

Maybe Marky will confirm this but its possible your DV could be fooked - from what I gather loss of boost is very oftenm the DV "letting by" as a spring may be fooked.

I wont confirm anything at all as i think Anders does not know he has a leak?

Make sure the boost gauge is working correctly first. If you achieve target boost on the road but not on the rollers then don't worry about dyno figures as its simply the fact that the load on the road has not been replicated by the rollers correctly. This is very common, and just because it achieves target on PS's Maha does not mean it will on WRC's Dyno dynamics.

I have seen this countless times on every RR i have been on / too, including WRC techs.

Dont worry or get concerned about figures spat out by something that not even the dyno operators can explain the variances, nor can they calibrate to a known entity.

RobinSherwood wrote:It was good to meet you all on Saturday thanks for organising it and glad you enjoyed the run over to the pub.

Look forward to coming to another meet soon.

Robin

Good to meet you aswell Robin

quality drive


Any news regarding the door ?

marky mark wrote:I wont confirm anything at all as i think Anders does not know he has a leak?

Make sure the boost gauge is working correctly first. If you achieve target boost on the road but not on the rollers then don't worry about dyno figures as its simply the fact that the load on the road has not been replicated by the rollers correctly. This is very common, and just because it achieves target on PS's Maha does not mean it will on WRC's Dyno dynamics.

I have seen this countless times on every RR i have been on / too, including WRC techs.

Dont worry or get concerned about figures spat out by something that not even the dyno operators can explain the variances, nor can they calibrate to a known entity.

As I said earlier to all if your happy with the drive !

IT AINT BROKE

marky mark wrote:I wont confirm anything at all as i think Anders does not know he has a leak?

Make sure the boost gauge is working correctly first. If you achieve target boost on the road but not on the rollers then don't worry about dyno figures as its simply the fact that the load on the road has not been replicated by the rollers correctly. This is very common, and just because it achieves target on PS's Maha does not mean it will on WRC's Dyno dynamics.

I have seen this countless times on every RR i have been on / too, including WRC techs.

Dont worry or get concerned about figures spat out by something that not even the dyno operators can explain the variances, nor can they calibrate to a known entity.

Mark, there is a leak - I get a high pitched squeal when the boost goes over 1 BAR. I thought it would only be a minor leak if it was high pitched.

Does the dealers select monitor show the manifold boost pressure as seen by the ECU?

Btw, the boost target was being reached on the WRC Tech dyno - I was sat in the passenger seat watching 1.5 BAR on the Defi's. It looks like the Defi's are plumbed in to the boost hose that comes off the compressor housing, is that right?

Anders

Ahh i see.

Boost pressure can be seen on the logs on mine so i'm pretty sure they will see it on the select monitor.

I cant see why the boost gauge will not work from there but most new age cars seem to T into the vacuum hose going to the dump valve.

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:Any news regarding the door ?

Dent Master/Chips Away think by the description they can't sort it and Crossroads reckon a new door (!) is the best solution at circa

RobinSherwood wrote:

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:Any news regarding the door ?

Dent Master/Chips Away think by the description they can't sort it and Crossroads reckon a new door (!) is the best solution at circa

RobinSherwood wrote:

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:Any news regarding the door ?

Dent Master/Chips Away think by the description they can't sort it and Crossroads reckon a new door (!) is the best solution at circa

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:

RobinSherwood wrote:

WR 1mpostor (aka number 1 moderator) wrote:Any news regarding the door ?

Dent Master/Chips Away think by the description they can't sort it and Crossroads reckon a new door (!) is the best solution at circa

marky mark wrote:Ahh i see.

Boost pressure can be seen on the logs on mine so i'm pretty sure they will see it on the select monitor.

I cant see why the boost gauge will not work from there but most new age cars seem to T into the vacuum hose going to the dump valve.

It does T into the dump valve hose, but I thought I traced that back to the compressor housing. I'm trying to make a bracket to mount the sensor the right way at the moment. Not easy with fook all tools!

Anders

Anders_WR1 wrote:

marky mark wrote:Ahh i see.

Boost pressure can be seen on the logs on mine so i'm pretty sure they will see it on the select monitor.

I cant see why the boost gauge will not work from there but most new age cars seem to T into the vacuum hose going to the dump valve.

It does T into the dump valve hose, but I thought I traced that back to the compressor housing. I'm trying to make a bracket to mount the sensor the right way at the moment. Not easy with fook all tools!

Anders

Pooster is a bit of a "tool"

mmmm.....that may well be the problem.

Forgive me, because i am not 100% familiar with the vacuum hosing on the new age cars.

A boost gauge needs to see manifold pressure as this is what your engine is seeing. There will be a pressure drop from the compressor housing to the manifold as charge has to go through the intercooler.

So sensing off the compressor housing will always give you a higher reading than an equivalent gauge that is T'd into a vacuum pipe that comes from the manifold.

Where did WRC plumb into with their boost sensor? I'm thinking it was not off the same pipe that you were?