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RR6?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:21 pm
by Robocop
It may be a bit early to start talking about it, but how about the next RR day taking place at Powerstation.

Chris B suggested it as well. :)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:47 am
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
:D yes please 416 bhp - 460 torque :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:51 am
by marky mark
powerstation is one of the places to go too if you like err....big figures!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:58 am
by Robocop
Well I thought them accurate as they have that cooling duct that connects directly to the top of the intercooler. Most places suffer from too much heat.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:05 am
by marky mark
Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:07 am
by Robocop
Very true. Perhaps accurate was the wrong word to use. :)

Lets just say that using Powerstations setup, that most standard WR1's should produce the power in says on the tin.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:09 am
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:14 am
by WR1 Bro
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:57 am
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


You have to admit there were some obscene figures!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:13 pm
by marky mark
heres a good one for you then.


P1 belonging to DaveP off here at G-force motorsport. Car has a VF34 and dave quite reasonably expected 330 ish. All the standard P1's on the day were giving around 270 so close enough.
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1 week later at powerstation, with no changes whatsoever!
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305 to 347 in 1 week. Wow. Dyno testing and RR's is a bit of a joke. in shootout mode only useful for comparing car to car on the day. long since got rid of them at work and we now only use engine out dynos in proper temp/climate/press controlled cells. Rolling roads (even the same one used day to day) simply were not good enough.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:24 pm
by stijoy
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


You have to admit there were some obscene figures!!!!

what so my 341 is'nt accurate then :cry:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:53 pm
by POESY
WR1 Bro wrote:It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


Oh - well gangsta and I usually enjoy the Southend weekender that we're trying to organise for July, so hopefully everyone coming will also.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:51 pm
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
POESY wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


Oh - well gangsta and I usually enjoy the Southend weekender that we're trying to organise for July, so hopefully everyone coming will also.


tits oot in the carwash :shock:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:11 pm
by POESY
You what ??!!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:49 am
by Dave P
That would be my graph.
The wheel figures are pretty close but it's down to how the dyno has calculated the flywheel figure. I can't believe how two figures can be soooo far apart.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:52 pm
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
POESY wrote:You what ??!!


topless car wash!! nobby sucky sucky!! u wash my windscreen looongtime!!!! :shock:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:44 pm
by Gangsta Smurf
who gives a flying fcuk about rolling roads!!!

Can't see the point personally of standing around watching some nerd sitting in your drivers seat with a laptop - whilst you car gets nowhere near the airflow it needs, or what you would get from regular driving. All to prove who has the biggest numbers.

Much better taking all the cars to a track day and letting them loose and then deciding which one is best.

Also every single rolling road produces different figures so what is the bloody point??

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:46 pm
by jd
Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:05 pm
by Robocop
jd wrote:Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.


Exactly JD. :)

I don't even own a WR1, but have made several friends from going to RR4. I would have liked to have gone to the last one, but it was too far for me.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:21 pm
by SPIKE LIKE MIKE
jd wrote:Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.


bang on,it usually means the start of a drinking session on the meets ive been too

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:26 pm
by jd
So im going to one at Alan Jeffries in a couple of weeks cause I happen to be there that weekend.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:27 pm
by Scooby Lee
I prefer the way Powerstation presents the data in general...although I'm a little disappointed they don't keep things standard.

i.e. Where Power and Torque are displayed:

BHP should be presented 'against' ft/lb.
kW should be presented 'against' Nm.

When viewing engine performance curves derived from a rolling road, it is more important to study the 'shape' of the plots than the 'absolute' values conveyed.

...and remember if the Power (BHP) and Torque (ft/lb) curves don't cross at 5252 RPM, then the graph can be completely disregarded!

Power (bhp) = Torque (ft/lb) * RPM / 5252

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:09 pm
by POESY
If its a meet everyone wants - dont forget the Southend weekender at the start of July :wink: Its going to be booze, birds and cars all the way :D (see the way I got that free plug in there - good huh).

All that standing around at a rr day does get a bit boring for me too - and generally i can tell whether or not my car is on song just by driving it. Although seeing some good figures is always quite satisfying for the people whos cars are involved and if theyve put in the wrench time then I can understand they'd like to see the fruits of their labour.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:34 am
by mick c
I'll make one anyway, if I am not working, wheres power station :?:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:55 am
by Robocop
Tewkesbury in Gloucestershire. Less than 1 mile from J9 M5.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:53 am
by Scooby Lee
If it's a 'Meet' not just an RR day, then I'd suggest we ask if they could offer other services......such as Laser Geometry Checks / Setups on one of their Scissor Lifts!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:10 pm
by Robocop
Anymore interest in this?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:28 pm
by danr55
when ? :?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:51 pm
by Robocop
When do people want to go?
I can make enquiries at Powerstation to see how they are for Saturdays.