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Postby Robocop » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:21 pm

It may be a bit early to start talking about it, but how about the next RR day taking place at Powerstation.

Chris B suggested it as well. :)
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:47 am

:D yes please 416 bhp - 460 torque :wink:
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Postby marky mark » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:51 am

powerstation is one of the places to go too if you like err....big figures!
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Postby Robocop » Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:58 am

Well I thought them accurate as they have that cooling duct that connects directly to the top of the intercooler. Most places suffer from too much heat.
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Postby marky mark » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:05 am

Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!
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Postby Robocop » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:07 am

Very true. Perhaps accurate was the wrong word to use. :)

Lets just say that using Powerstations setup, that most standard WR1's should produce the power in says on the tin.
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:09 am

marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:
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Postby WR1 Bro » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:14 am

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:57 am

WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


You have to admit there were some obscene figures!!!!
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Postby marky mark » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:13 pm

heres a good one for you then.


P1 belonging to DaveP off here at G-force motorsport. Car has a VF34 and dave quite reasonably expected 330 ish. All the standard P1's on the day were giving around 270 so close enough.
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1 week later at powerstation, with no changes whatsoever!
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305 to 347 in 1 week. Wow. Dyno testing and RR's is a bit of a joke. in shootout mode only useful for comparing car to car on the day. long since got rid of them at work and we now only use engine out dynos in proper temp/climate/press controlled cells. Rolling roads (even the same one used day to day) simply were not good enough.
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Postby stijoy » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:24 pm

Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:
Spike "THE LEGEND" Mike XXX wrote:
marky mark wrote:Accurate is a bit mis informing when you are comparing dynos as they are all over the place.

All im saying is powerstations is one of the ones that gives very high readings, nothing wrong in that of course!


PMSL sounds like the last RR!!

up and down like hoares knickers :suss:


It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


You have to admit there were some obscene figures!!!!

what so my 341 is'nt accurate then :cry:
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Postby POESY » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:53 pm

WR1 Bro wrote:It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


Oh - well gangsta and I usually enjoy the Southend weekender that we're trying to organise for July, so hopefully everyone coming will also.
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:51 pm

POESY wrote:
WR1 Bro wrote:It is a thankless task organising any event. From start to finish people just moan moan moan.


Oh - well gangsta and I usually enjoy the Southend weekender that we're trying to organise for July, so hopefully everyone coming will also.


tits oot in the carwash :shock:
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Postby POESY » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:11 pm

You what ??!!
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Postby Dave P » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:49 am

That would be my graph.
The wheel figures are pretty close but it's down to how the dyno has calculated the flywheel figure. I can't believe how two figures can be soooo far apart.
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:52 pm

POESY wrote:You what ??!!


topless car wash!! nobby sucky sucky!! u wash my windscreen looongtime!!!! :shock:
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Postby Gangsta Smurf » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:44 pm

who gives a flying fcuk about rolling roads!!!

Can't see the point personally of standing around watching some nerd sitting in your drivers seat with a laptop - whilst you car gets nowhere near the airflow it needs, or what you would get from regular driving. All to prove who has the biggest numbers.

Much better taking all the cars to a track day and letting them loose and then deciding which one is best.

Also every single rolling road produces different figures so what is the bloody point??
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Postby jd » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:46 pm

Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.
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Postby Robocop » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:05 pm

jd wrote:Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.


Exactly JD. :)

I don't even own a WR1, but have made several friends from going to RR4. I would have liked to have gone to the last one, but it was too far for me.
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Postby SPIKE LIKE MIKE » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:21 pm

jd wrote:Could it be just as a meet, rather than any specific reason.


bang on,it usually means the start of a drinking session on the meets ive been too
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Postby jd » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:26 pm

So im going to one at Alan Jeffries in a couple of weeks cause I happen to be there that weekend.
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Postby Scooby Lee » Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:27 pm

I prefer the way Powerstation presents the data in general...although I'm a little disappointed they don't keep things standard.

i.e. Where Power and Torque are displayed:

BHP should be presented 'against' ft/lb.
kW should be presented 'against' Nm.

When viewing engine performance curves derived from a rolling road, it is more important to study the 'shape' of the plots than the 'absolute' values conveyed.

...and remember if the Power (BHP) and Torque (ft/lb) curves don't cross at 5252 RPM, then the graph can be completely disregarded!

Power (bhp) = Torque (ft/lb) * RPM / 5252
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Postby POESY » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:09 pm

If its a meet everyone wants - dont forget the Southend weekender at the start of July :wink: Its going to be booze, birds and cars all the way :D (see the way I got that free plug in there - good huh).

All that standing around at a rr day does get a bit boring for me too - and generally i can tell whether or not my car is on song just by driving it. Although seeing some good figures is always quite satisfying for the people whos cars are involved and if theyve put in the wrench time then I can understand they'd like to see the fruits of their labour.
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Postby mick c » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:34 am

I'll make one anyway, if I am not working, wheres power station :?:
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Postby Robocop » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:55 am

Tewkesbury in Gloucestershire. Less than 1 mile from J9 M5.
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Postby Scooby Lee » Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:53 am

If it's a 'Meet' not just an RR day, then I'd suggest we ask if they could offer other services......such as Laser Geometry Checks / Setups on one of their Scissor Lifts!
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Postby Robocop » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:10 pm

Anymore interest in this?
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Postby danr55 » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:28 pm

when ? :?
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Postby Robocop » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:51 pm

When do people want to go?
I can make enquiries at Powerstation to see how they are for Saturdays.
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